|From:||shaista husain <firstname.lastname@example.org>|
|Sent time:||Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:57:02 PM|
|Subject:||SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Fwd: A dramatic shift in America|
Shaista, I wasn't endorsing those observatoins, at all. I think it's interesting, and useful, to examine other points of view.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:46 PM, shaista husain <email@example.com> wrote:
are we going to start the provocateur paranoia and suspicions to start redbaiting one another? I guess this email gail is very inexperienced activists, most inexperienced activists start redbaiting before anything else...we have some brilliant economists here and we are quite capable of democratically achieving principled solutions.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:36 PM, gail zawacki <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I share this email I got from a very experienced activist, for what it's worth:I think it is urgent, imperative, that OWS sit down with people from other groups like Institute for Policy Studies,
Union for Radical Economics, etc. to develop an agenda that addresses taxation, jobs, health care, etc. and thatthey then develop from this a legislative agenda. When they have this they can look for congressional sponsors.What response they get will be very revealing. They might get Kucinich and no one else.It is equally imperative that they NOT allow the Democrats to initiate legislation on their own. They need toThere needs to be a steering committee of some kind to promote the legislative agenda.head this off at the pass.And the agenda should not go far afield from economic and financial reform.There are two risks: co-optation from within by marxists and others with their private agendas (not to mentionprovocateurs), and co-optation by the Democrats, Center for American Progress, Van Jones' new group, etc.The way to prevent this is to have their own agenda, signed, stamped and sealed. I hope the consensus processdoes not destroy them. It allows one trouble maker or secret adversary to stop things in their tracks.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, shaista husain <email@example.com> wrote:
well, in that case, then, we have every right to co-opt them.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Doug Singsen <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
This is pretty gross. MoveOn is using OWS to do fundraising for itself.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Justin Wedes <email@example.com> wrote:
Dear MoveOn member,
Massive discontent with Wall Street means it's time to go on offense to make them pay. Donate to help take the fight to Wall Street and keep the pressure on.
In a few short weeks everything's changed. America is finally talking about how our economy is rigged to advantage the wealthiest 1% over the rest of us.
Thanks to the bravery of the protesters down on Wall Street, real change is now possible. So we all need to drop what we're doing and go on offense.
In addition to providing all the support we can to #OccupyWallStreet, at MoveOn we're scrambling to launch a huge campaign to make Wall Street pay. We're organizing mass meetings in hundreds of cities. We've hired filmmakers to tell the stories that the mainstream media are ignoring. We're turning up the heat on the banks by helping people move their money. And we're helping organize two major national days of protest in November.
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- Participating in a massive "Make Wall Street Pay" global day of action for November 5, where we all put those tools to move our money to use
- Empowering people to hold teach-ins in their communities to tell their friends and neighbors the story of how our economy came to favor the 1% over the 99%
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