From:   Snafu <snafu@thething.it>
Sent time:   Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:08:55 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Hey Guys - Is This Real?
 

The power of this Declaration lies in the fact that it endows the movement as a constituent force. Its limit lies in the fact that it does so through a representative process the NYCGA has openly opposed since the beginning. This is one of the first statements, if not the first one, approved by the NYCGA in August:


"NYC General Assemblies are an open participatory and horizontally organized process through
which we are building the capacity to constitute ourselves in public as autonomous collective
forces within and *against representative politics,* cultural death and the crisis of our times."

Yet, besides the fact that molding the electoral process on the existing congressional districts is highly questionable, 
I think that calling for a national gathering of the movement on July 4 is a great idea.
 



On 10/19/11 8:51 PM, Gabriel Johnson wrote:
They (with the Declaration) are pretty much trying the same strategy Adbusters did with the original September 17th call; if you announce it, they will come. My main issue with it is they're trying to imply (it seems) that they're somehow officially endorsed by the movement; if they clear that up, I wish them luck and may sorta participate. (Well, except for the whole "third party" thing, but that's a different can of tomatillos.)

The resolution to elect, on the other hand, I see as laughable on its face in about every way. Good luck getting the NYCGA to agree to electing 11 people (much less exactly who those people would be).

--glj

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM, gail zawacki <witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote:
The Declaration and resolution to elect look like they are connected, since they both reference the July conference.  Frankly I think it's brilliant.  It's not a "list of demands" it's a working framework to procede.  The actual demands are fungible, to be determined.

If OWS is all-inclusive, then I don't understand the "us" as opposed to "them."

There is clearly opportunity for anyone to join the process they have started, in fact, I think I will!


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:22 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:



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