From:   shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:21:07 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Proposal on the agenda for tonight's GA
 

Well, according to David Harvey, Jameson and Frankfurt school, who've written in length on the condition of the 'post' as it relates to modernity, industrialization, or 'late capitalism' --we are in a condition of time/space compression, within a mutant and schizophrenic cultural production dictated by metanarratives that impose a "natural law" as if this is the absolute way things are, beyond reach. To accept that, and declare ourselves postpolitical, is to give in to Lyotard's end of history argument--victory of capitalism and victory of a cycle of recurring self referential eurocentric repetition. For us colonials, hell no, we have just begun to properly dismantle colonial itself.

 


On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, acpollack2@juno.com <acpollack2@juno.com> wrote:
So true, Shaista!
Now the GREEKS are political: they have actual leftist parties, some of which were with the masses yesterday trying to occupy the (political) Parliament to stop the (political) austerity vote in hopes of leading to a new (political) world.
Time for us to learn to speak Greek (and walk like an Egyptian)!
 
http://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article2330 
 
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
To: september17@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Proposal on the agenda for tonight's GA
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:53:12 -0400

how can we be post political when we have yet to be political? We are in fact, compared to movements outside the U.S "prepolitical" in my humble opinion.we have a lot to learn and catch up on.. so post means we have moved beyond something--i doubt it, if we want to move beyond something, let;s try to move beyond chauvinism.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:59 AM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:
We are very political.� Post-political sounds orwellian to me.
On 10/19/11, Justine<justine@occupywallst.org> wrote:
I like where you guys brought this statement. �I'll probably find somewhere on the website to post this tonight and add in the term "post-political" which is a new term I came up with for describing this movement that has so far received a great deal of consensus. �Thoughts?


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote:
After a long, raging consensus process on this listserv, the following Statement of the General Assembly of People Occupying Wall Street will be proposed at tonight's GA�

THIS EMAIL IS NOT THE PLACE TO PROPOSE WORDING CHANGES. �TONIGHT'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS THE PLACE TO PROPOSE WORDING CHANGES
The Democratic and Republican parties do not represent the people, because they've been bought and corrupted by Wall Street, and the occupation does not support their candidates.�In collusion with both parties, only the top 1% has profited at the expense of everyone else. We have moved beyond false hopes, submission�to�eloquent speeches, and populist manipulation.�We rely on cooperation and solidarity to imagine and create the changes needed for a sustainable world.�From diverse multicultural, racial, ethnic, social, sexual and gender backgrounds and from�different walks of life, we have begun to unite on common ground�to oust�the global financial powers that have bought our governments and�who�hold us hostage to their greed.�

THIS EMAIL IS NOT THE PLACE TO PROPOSE WORDING CHANGES. �TONIGHT'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS THE PLACE TO PROPOSE WORDING CHANGES

 


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