From:   Justin Wedes <>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:35:53 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] IMPORTANT Re: [Labor OWS] REBNY hearing tonight on Zuccotti and closing parks at 1am

I am now hearing that there will not be a resolution brought up against OWS.

Also, does anybody know if REBNY has anything to do with this meeting, or will be present.

My current understanding is that this is just the sub-committee of CB1, and not associated with REBNY.


On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Doug Singsen wrote:

There is a meeting tonight where anti-OWS rules will be proposed. We should march to this hearing and have a rally outside.

10/20      Combined Quality of Life and Financial District Committees – 6:00 PM  
Location:  New York State Assembly Hearing Room
                250 Broadway, 19th Floor
1) Occupy Wall Street protest in Zuccotti Park – Discussion and possible resolution
*Please note change of location

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Matt Renner <> wrote:
From a friend - I'm going to this. Have others here heard about it?

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From: phillip anderson <>
Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Subject: [GSC] REBNY hearing tonight, 5 mins from OWS

The hearing is happening in the building I used to work in, 250 Broadway. It's a 5 minute walk from Liberty, right across from City Hall Park. The Assembly hearing room holds approx 100 folks or so. It needs to get flooded.

From my friend Debra on another list:

Please come to the meeting tonight or send our messages or write about people comingto the  meeting of the combined Quality of Life and Financial Distirct  subcommittee
    Real Estate Board of New York asking the city to prohibit Occupy Wall Street-sty​le use of public space
In fact, the Real Estate Board of New York is reportedly preparing to ask the city to endorse universally applicable rules prohibiting future Occupy Wall Street-style use of public space, along with the automatic right to close all spaces at night.
REBNY is the 1%:
The Board’s ranks consist of 12,000 owners, builders, brokers, managers, banks, insurance companies, pension funds, real estate investment trusts, utilities, attorneys, architects, marketing professionals and many other individuals and institutions involved in New York realty.
0/20      Combined Quality of Life and Financial District Committees – 6:00 PM  
Location:  New York State Assembly Hearing Room
                250 Broadway, 19th Floor
1) Occupy Wall Street protest in Zuccotti Park – Discussion and possible resolution
*Please note change of location
Steven Spinola is the long time head of REBNY since 1986  He acts like he IS NY City real estate.  I think the real estate agents and even many of the small porperty owners feel like the rest of New Yorkers who approve of OWS.  He arrogates to himself the idea that his personal views represnts everyone else.
During the health care fight he sent anti health rants and actions to every member of REBNY.  Almost everyone who works as an agent for any brokerage firm MUST join REBNY. 
I have been told by the board chair, Julie Menin, ( who wants to run for boro prez) that supposedly no resolution is planned tonight.  Tonight is not a full Community Board meeting.  That is Oct. 25th.  Tonight is the Subcommittee called Quality of Life.  She tells me that the whole board is favorable to the OWS but the Subcommittee is very angry. 
Specifically they are angry about drumming late at night.  The area is also residential and not just business and there are families with kids.  That seems reasonable and one would hope the OWS folks would deal with that on their own.
Second is the lack of toilets at night when the local merchants are closed.  She says there is defecation in the streets.  THAT IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR AND THE DEPT OF TRANSPORTATION CHAIR, JEANNETTE SADIK-KAHN, refuse to allow port a potties. 
I told her I would come testify tonight on the importance of OWS and that their pressure shoould be on the Bloomberg and Sadik-Kahn for their refusal to allow a reasonable accomiodation as that is their way of shutting them down. 
If anyone knows anyone who lives nearby, please ask them to come down.  
NY City Property Owners Want AllPublic Plazas Closed at Night
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:07 PM
By Marlon Bishop : WNYC Culture Producer
Protesters at Zuccotti Park in New York City on October 14, 2011. (Ben Brock Johnson/The Takeaway) 
Property owners are moving to change an old zoning law that has allowed anti-Wall Street protesters to camp out in Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan around the clock.
A 1960's era zoning rule gave developers zoning concessions in return for building public plazas that would be accessible 24 hours a day. This rule has since changed so that new privately built public spaces may close overnight; however, the plazas built under the earlier rule were not affected and still kept open 24 hours.
Real Estate Board President Steve Spinola said his organization, which represents institutions and people involved in NY real estate, will request a zoning change that will allow those plazas built under the 1961 rule to close at 1 a.m. "I do believe that plazas should have the right to shut down at a certain time because they were not meant for camping out," he said
But changing the rule retroactively for plazas built under the old rule is expected to be a lengthy legal process