Sent time:   Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:38:04 AM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Get Money Out

I agree that it doesn't solve the problem, but it seems like a necessary step.  It is hard to convince the public to do the right thing while they are being bombarded by by $billions in deceptive advertising.
On 10/22/11, Doug Singsen<> wrote:
Plenty of European countries have public funding of elections, and they still have the same economic inequality and problems we do. Getting money out of politics is not a substitute for fighting for jobs, health care, housing, etc. The former will not automatically lead to solving the latter.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:15 AM, kindofblue <> wrote:
Ratigan's "Get Money Out" is not about taking money out of banks, it
is about getting money out of politics.  IMO, it should be the #1
demand/grievance/goal of OWS.  As we stated in the Sept 29 declaration
"No true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by
economic power."  We must separate economic power from political
power, and the only way to do that it to get rid of direct and
indirect campaign donations.  The other problems (e.g. jobs, health
care, environment) are all symptoms of the fact that our government is
bought and paid for.  Get the money out of politics and there is hope
to solve the other problems.

I believe we should work closely with Ratigan, as well as others who
have called for the same goal (e.g. Lawrence Lessig).  This is a goal
that has wide support across the political spectrum, and if we were to
pass a resolution along the lines of "get money out of politics" I
think it could spur a national discussion on campaign finance reform.