From:   cseeman <cseeman@optonline.net>
Sent time:   Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:36:05 PM
To:   Global Revolution Media <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>
Subject:   [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Why is Live Stream not covering the G.A.
 

Adding one more thought to make this a bit more interesting.

 

The "show host" (e.g. Dwayne) could also have a Mic layer so he could

explain things for those who might find watching the GA confusing due

to lack of context on a given issue being discussed.

 

It might even be possible to do this as a split screen or picture in

picture as warranted.

 

BTW just in case BoinxTV can't handle multiple Cubes as sources, I

know Wirecast can and I believe VidBlaster may be adding it as a

feature as well.

 

If you wanted to stream from the on site switcher computer independent

of the any local wifi you could hook the computer to the Cube and use

in 3G/4G mode with a few adaptors.

 

CraigS

 

 

 

On Oct 23, 3:27 pm, cseeman <csee...@optonline.net> wrote:

> I believe BoinxTV can accept feed from Axis IP cameras. You might be

> able to set up a couple of these and send back to BoinxTV to switch.

> This might be worth testing with Teradek Cube in Wifi (not 3G/4G)

> mode. The base station computer would have to be near by on the wifi

> network. I believe the Cube can hook into a local network or can

> create one adhoc. This way instead of screen grabbing a web page or

> trying to switch sources in Livestream stream, you'd have much more

> control. Having a wireless mic near the facilitators would also help.

>

> I know there'd be some challenges in setting up the local network but

> if you had one that was password protected so it doesn't get saturated

> with "mass access" it might be viable.

>

> CraigS

>

> On Oct 23, 1:33 pm, Dwayne Henry <dwayne12...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > It's ok Todd.  Sorry again for snapping back.  I know unless you got a full

> > tutorial on livestream it wouldn't be absolutely clear as to the process.

>

> > Also Vlad I think more than the boring angle we need to work on the audio

> > issue.  Ideally if we have 2 to 3 livestream angles it would help up the

> > production value (something that can be done with the current equipment).

>

> > We can put one camera with a mic on the facilitators at all time.  The

> > second angle can float through the audience to get an angle/mic on blockers,

> > concerners, and point of process people.  That would just take 2

> > livestreamers and someone in the livestream studio mixing the feeds.  When

> > the crowd is larger we can have 2 floaters to get voices from opposite sides

> > of the parks.  The key in this is the livestream studio person paying

> > attention and cueing up the different angles in a timely fashion.

>

> > -Dwayne

>

> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Vlad T <v...@glassbeadcollective.org>wrote:

>

> > > I think to cover GA well we should sit down and think about best ways

> > > tonshoot it.  one angle gets borng but if you alternate angles it might get

> > > better.  Maybe we should install a cheap security system feeding into a

> > > Broadcasting computer....

> > > On Oct 23, 2011 11:36 AM, "Steven Macchia" <owsmediat...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > >> I second dwaynes last comment, also noting that even the viewers get bored

> > >> after a few hours out of a 5 hour GA

>

> > >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dwayne Henry <dwayne12...@gmail.com>wrote:

>

> > >>> If I can open up discussion for 1 more moment.

>

> > >>> I would like to say that I don't decide what anyone gets to view.  The

> > >>> person controlling the livestream studio decides what the audience views.  I

> > >>> wasn't the only livestreamer at the park during the GA.  I was just the only

> > >>> one that admitted on camera that I didn't want to cover it.

>

> > >>> Furthermore I don't know what Thorin's personal decisions have to do with

> > >>> my issue with the way the GA is currently executed.

>

> > >>> Cheers

>

> > >>> -Dwayne

>

> > >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:52 AM, DMS <davidscameracr...@gmail.com>wrote:

>

> > >>>> Thank you ABE and Dotto for speaking out on this point.

>

> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Dwayne Henry <dwayne12...@gmail.com>wrote:

>

> > >>>>> My apologies.

>

> > >>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Abraham Heisler <

> > >>>>> a...@abrahamheisler.com> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>> Blow the whistle!

>

> > >>>>>> Offensive and defensive foul.

>

> > >>>>>> I suggest you two discuss peacefully off the listserve and let's try

> > >>>>>> to keep online engagement cordial.

>

> > >>>>>> We're all trying our best here and we're all on the same team. Let's

> > >>>>>> try to find more productive ways of problem solving. You guys are both

> > >>>>>> doing awesome jobs! Thanks from millions of people worldwide.

>

> > >>>>>> -Abe

>

> > >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:33 AM,  <dwayne12...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >>>>>> > I said if anyone wanted to cover the GA they could. They want to

> > >>>>>> know our

> > >>>>>> > opinions. I give my opinions when they ask. The GA as it stands is

> > >>>>>> becoming

> > >>>>>> > extremely counter productive.

>

> > >>>>>> > Who the hell are you to tell me how to do the livestream? I've been

> > >>>>>> covering

> > >>>>>> > GA's for weeks. Have you ever covered one on the livestream? I

> > >>>>>> didn't think

> > >>>>>> > so. I don't like doing them so I won't. Just because you like it

> > >>>>>> doesn't

> > >>>>>> > mean I do.

>

> > >>>>>> > And for your dumb ass information I couldn't bring the computer over

> > >>>>>> so I

> > >>>>>> > stopped streaming. Listened in on the GA and reported back

> > >>>>>> everything that

> > >>>>>> > was discussed. I do whatever the streamers ask.

>

> > >>>>>> > -Dwayne

>

> > >>>>>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> > >>>>>> > ________________________________

> > >>>>>> > From: ddotto <toddodo...@gmail.com>

> > >>>>>> > Sender: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com

> > >>>>>> > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 04:30:59 -0400

> > >>>>>> > To: <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>

> > >>>>>> > ReplyTo: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com

> > >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Why is Live Stream not covering

> > >>>>>> the

> > >>>>>> > G.A.

> > >>>>>> > We should have our General Assembly covered. Dwayne, if you don't

> > >>>>>> want to do

> > >>>>>> > it, don't. Who cares what you personally want to cover? I certainly

> > >>>>>> don't.

> > >>>>>> > The General Assembly is among the most important aspects of this

> > >>>>>> movement,

> > >>>>>> > and it absolutely should be broadcast to the thousands of viewers

> > >>>>>> who link

> > >>>>>> > up with us every night during our GA. If you don't want to cover it,

> > >>>>>> then

> > >>>>>> > get the fuck off camera and give it to someone else. Alternatively,

> > >>>>>> you can

> > >>>>>> > do what you volunteered to do - the job of anchor representation of

> > >>>>>> the

> > >>>>>> > LiveStream events at OWS. How do you imagine that you personally can

> > >>>>>> decide

> > >>>>>> > what we off-site participants get to view? The General Assembly has

> > >>>>>> NOT

> > >>>>>> > elected you Supreme Editor of Worthy LiveStream Subject Matter. And,

> > >>>>>> as per

> > >>>>>> > Thorin's relinquishment of autonomy from GA accountability on

> > >>>>>> October 21,

> > >>>>>> > your actions are now subject to the decisions of the General

> > >>>>>> Assembly; so...

> > >>>>>> > get with the program.

> > >>>>>> > I acknowledge that my impertinent and angry remarks about this

> > >>>>>> subject are

> > >>>>>> > not conducive to friendly or productive dialogue.

>

> > >>>>>> > Todd

>

> > >>>>>> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Dwayne Henry <

> > >>>>>> dwayne12...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>> >> I personally did not want to cover the GA.  It's painstaking to sit

> > >>>>>> >> through.  I asked the chat and it was a 50/50 split on whether they

> > >>>>>> wanted

> > >>>>>> >> to see it or not.  My computer also did not have enough charge to

> > >>>>>> go off of

> > >>>>>> >> the battery to cover it.

>

> > >>>>>> >> -D

>

> > >>>>>> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Cari Machet <

> > >>>>>> carimac...@gmail.com>

> > >>>>>> >> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>> >>> frankly it probably would not have broadcast well as drumming was

> > >>>>>> >>> drowning it out and the sound probably would have not worked well

>

> > >>>>>> >>> On 10/22/11, Steven Macchia <owsmediat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >>>>>> >>> > Manners?

>

> > >>>>>> >>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:03 PM, J B <the1sa...@gmail.com>

> > >>>>>> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>> >>> >> Hey Jill,

>

> > >>>>>> >>> >> Very sorry about the GA coverage this evening.  We're working

> > >>>>>> to build

> > >>>>>> >>> >> a

> > >>>>>> >>> >> new homebase so we should have much better coverage starting

> > >>>>>> tomorrow.

>

> > >>>>>> >>> >> Thanks for your patience,

>

> > >>>>>> >>> >> Josh

> > >>>>>> >>> >> On Oct 22, 2011 10:49 PM, "Jill T" <jillturner...@gmail.com>

> > >>>>>> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>> >>> >>> If the person running the camera doesn't believe in the G.A.

> > >>>>>> then

> > >>>>>> >>> >>> can't someone else  cover it?

> > >>>>>> >>> >>> This is not fair to the listening audience.

>

> > >>>>>> >>> --

> > >>>>>> >>> Cari Machet

> > >>>>>> >>> NYC 646-436-7795

> > >>>>>> >>> carimac...@gmail.com

> > >>>>>> >>> AIM carismachet

> > >>>>>> >>> Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434

> > >>>>>> >>> Syria +963-099 277 3243

> > >>>>>> >>> Amman +962 077 636 9407

> > >>>>>> >>> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet>

>

> > >>>>>> >> --

> > >>>>>> >> Dwayne Henry, Media Design MFA

> > >>>>>> >> c. 732 850 6093

>

> > >>>>>> > --

> > >>>>>> > revolution  -  transformation  -  love

>

> > >>>>>> --

> > >>>>>>www.AbrahamHeisler.com

> > >>>>>>www.vimeo.com/heisler

> > >>>>>>www.imdb.me/heisler

> > >>>>>>www.newdawnlab.com

>

> > >>>>> --

> > >>>>> Dwayne Henry, Media Design MFA

> > >>>>> c. 732 850 6093

>

> > >>> --

> > >>> Dwayne Henry, Media Design MFA

> > >>> c. 732 850 6093

>

> > --

> > Dwayne Henry, Media Design MFA

> > c. 732 850 6093

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