I assumed we were talking about whether an Oakland general strike was feasible.
As for NYC -- we are NOWHERE near that.
TWU struck in defiance of the Taylor Law over their contract, and got away with it (except for withdrawal of their dues collection rights, which was a heavy blow).
But even that was a very rare occasion.
Who knows, maybe we'll see in NYC soon another Republic Windows (they occupied their factory three years ago).
This question came up in the Labor Outreach Committee last week, and I proposed that while we were nowhere near calling for a general strike, we SHOULD begin producing educational materials explaining why one would be possible and desirable, i.e. flyers and speeches explaining how ALL NYC public sector works are getting screwed on the job, and how ALL NYC workers, private, public or unemployed, are getting screwed by the cuts in services.
In the meantime, let's follow the lead of the Education workers who shut down the PEP and held an Education GA.
---------- Original Message ----------
From: shaista husain <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Mass Day of Action: Nov 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:25:55 -0400
It depends on the mobilization of the people.. In Tahrir, for example,
the first general strike was called for on Feb 1st, quite early at the
start....but then again every mother, uncle and child was calling for
the ousting of Mubarak--everyone was on the streets, everyone.. So the
there has to be incredible unity of purpose and goals, which i believe
Oakland and Atlanta have--against the penal injustices and long
standing grievances against police brutality, but does NYC have this
unity and force among the workers, AT THE MOMENT== it is they who
decide, not the GA, we can call and scream all we want, But, we should
be in unity with the workers -the OWS GA might not have any "demands"
but working people when they strike, always have demands--a clear
purpose and goal. Really only labor outreach can inform us of this.
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Ben <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> A true general strike will take a long time to organize but I think it
> can be done. We just can't call for a general strike and have nothing
> happen however. In fact it'd kill the movement. My two cents is a
> general strike should be something we should build up to
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, shaista husain
> <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Must agree with Grim--also Rob, who knows? A general strike is serious
>> business--is it possible to mobilize such an action right now, Oakland
>> has been mobilized against police repression because that is the daily
>> condition for a long time, as in Atlanta, the death penalty and Troy
>> Davis--has been building up against penal justice. To call for a
>> general strike--our labor outreach should inform further....
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:07 AM, grimwomyn <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> err- "day after"
>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:07 AM, grimwomyn <email@example.com> wrote:
>>>> the national standing "dat after" plan is genius and should be
>>>> implemented, this should be proposed at the GA today?
>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:04 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org
>>>> <email@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> �I would be skeptical about this becoming a real general strike, but whereas
>>>>> a month ago I would have ridiculed the notion, now.... who knows!
>>>>> Meanwhile on the Labor Outreach list one person asked if we should do a
>>>>> solidarity action in NYC next Wednesday. And I asked about
>>>>> a�national�standing "day after" plan, i.e.�just as we do for expected
>>>>> attacks by the US or Israel, an agreement that when any Occupy site is
>>>>> attacked, the next day all Occupy sites will have special solidarity marches
>>>>> or other events.
>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>>> From: Ben <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>>>> To: email@example.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Mass Day of Action: Nov 2
>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:59:41 -0400
>>>>> Absolutely. If we can get some serious strike action our protests will
>>>>> be a lot more scary.
>>>>> Labor is going to be key in the long run.
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:55 AM, grimwomyn <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: