From:   Brennan <brennan@brennancavanaugh.com>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:31:15 AM
To:   Global Revolution Media <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>
Subject:   SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team
 

Brennan with Sustainability here. We just got approval to fund energy

bikes to produce battery-stored power. Before a group suggests a

generator, Sustainability Working Group highly encourages you to

consider stepping away from fossil fuels and get on a bike. Kitchen

used the one battery we have now to power their lights after their

generator failed the other day.

 

On Oct 26, 11:22 pm, Hector Lopez <hectorlope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If the electrical energy is lost, could you consider a generator?

>

> Hector Lopez

>

> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Becky Hurwitz <becky.hurw...@gmail.com>wrote:

>

>

>

> > hi all!

>

> > I think a multitude of solutions is the way to go so there are backup

> > options.  At the least, we should document our experiments for the future

> > and for other Occupies.  As long as electricity is available, radio will be

> > good, but if we lose it, or for encampments without, the mobile phone-conf

> > call option may be best.  AND for very mobile events, conf call will be

> > better than radio.

>

> > Are people interested in starting to share knowledge on things like this?

> > Are there places where the media group has been documenting processes or

> > methods?

>

> > B

>

> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:26 AM, White Hat <whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com

> > > wrote:

>

> >> i was initially a fan of the conference call route and did some work on it

> >> with ian, but i think radio is "lower tech" and more reliable and scalable

> >> (phones calls can eat minutes and speaker phone are ineffective in the din

> >> of zuccotti).  teleconference is more suited for people in disparate

> >> locations (e.g. among occupies).

>

> >> white hat

>

> >> ------------------------------

> >> *From:* Pam Tietze <pam.tie...@gmail.com>

> >> *To:* Global Revolution Media <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>

> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 11:08 PM

>

> >> *Subject:* [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team

>

> >> Hey guys have you already thought about free conference calls? We have

> >> been looking into all these options as well for the film screenings.

> >> The conference calls seem plausible...you don't need a device with an

> >> fm receiver, people just dial a number and put in a pin and they are

> >> connected the person who started the conference (and is speaking into

> >> their phone). You can make it so that everyone else is silent (so

> >> their noise doesn't interfere with the person who started the call.

> >> That phone can be passed around to whoever wants to speak.

>

> >> The drawback is...limited number of callers. Some sites have 100, some

> >> less. The one we are looking at is called rondee.com and has a max of

> >> 50. But if 50 people called into the line, they could put their phones

> >> on speakerphone and I think that can help with distributing

> >> information. The ones that have a larger number of callers allowed

> >> (upwards of 250) cost money (although not much I think). If we did the

> >> larger number of callers one, people from anywhere theoretically can

> >> listen (you can even listen with google phones)

>

> >> Anyhow, something to consider since most everyone has a phone (rather

> >> than a computer or something that receives an FM signal)

>

> >> I'm going to be testing this with a bunch of phones in the park

> >> tomorrow around 4pm. Please find me if you'd like to help.

>

> >> Thanks,

> >> Pam

> >> 254-681-8061

>

> >> On Oct 24, 5:01 pm, micah anderson <mi...@riseup.net> wrote:

> >> > Hello,

> >> > Thanks for your reply and comments on the proposal!

>

> >> > On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT), White Hat <

> >> whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> > > that said, i would not support a $2,000 budget initially.  i think

> >> > > better to demonstrably "solve" the open mic problem using minimal cost

> >> > > equipment and after that is working ask for funds to stream, archive,

> >> > > etc.  specifically get it working in the square without sound boards,

> >> > > laptops, streaming, space, storage, etc.

>

> >> > We have actually done this a couple of times, with some people from

> >> > media, using the PART-15 transmitters, USB audio devices, cables and

> >> > adapters that we have purchased ourselves ahead of time in order to do

> >> > this demonstration.

>

> >> > None of these have been widely announced because the transmission range,

> >> > money and space concerns have kept us from being able to reliably

> >> > provide something that would work as a demonstration for a larger

> >> > group.

>

> >> > The proposal as written is intended for the first phase to be

> >> > accomplished in much the same way as you describe, using minimal cost

> >> > equipment to just do the FM broadcasting, not doing the streaming,

> >> > archiving, etc.

>

> >> > > have you looked at these transmitters:

>

> >>http://www.amazon.com/0-5-Fail-Safe-Long-Range-Transmitter/dp/B003FO4UHW($139)

>

> >>http://www.amazon.com/Fail-Safe-Long-Range-FM-Transmitter/dp/B003VZU41G

> >> ($209)

>

> >> > Yes, as far as we can tell from the minimal descriptions there, these

> >> > are *not* FCC PART-15 compliant, especially with over 3 miles of

> >> > transmission capability. This is O.5 W, which is over the limit for

> >> > PART-15. This would require a LPFM license, which is not trivial to get.

>

> >> > > my suggestion would be to get one transmitter, one wired mic, one

> >> > > shotgun mic (to pick up audience comments), and ask people to bring

> >> > > radios.

>

> >> > We have two wired microphones (SM58s) donated, but they require phantom

> >> > power (ie. mixer board, which can be obtained for ~$120, we heard there

> >> > might have been one that was put in a green bin at SIS about 3 weeks

> >> > ago, we'd like to find that and use it if possible). We also have a

> >> > shotgun mic that takes a battery, but it is suboptimal for the purpose

> >> > as the cable lengths are poor, and the pickup very bad, it would not

> >> > work for a GA (we've tried). We have already two transmitters, cables,

> >> > adapters, etc.  which is over $200 already out of pocket. We can't go

> >> > any further without support from an official working group. We need

> >> > space, recognition and some resources to take this to

> >> > completion. Several of us are hauling a ton of equipment on our bikes on

> >> > a regular basis down to the square that I would really like to put

> >> > somewhere other than my already bad back.  We've been making callouts to

> >> > the local community asking for equipment donations and support, but have

> >> > thus far only received one offer that did not come through. The amount

> >> > requested is for the full project, but we could easily do phase one at a

> >> > lower amount, which I think would be sufficient to provide

> >> > demonstrations, but to do that, we are going to need some money to do

> >> > it. If I could front the money, I would.

>

> >> > micah

>

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