From:   ddotto <toddodotto@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:46:18 PM
To:   globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team
 

Excellent intervention, Sustainability! More like this!


Todd

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Brennan <brennan@brennancavanaugh.com> wrote:
Brennan with Sustainability here.  We just got approval to fund energy
bikes to produce battery-stored power.  Before a group suggests a
generator, Sustainability Working Group highly encourages you to
consider stepping away from fossil fuels and get on a bike.  Kitchen
used the one battery we have now to power their lights after their
generator failed the other day.

On Oct 26, 11:22 pm, Hector Lopez <hectorlope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the electrical energy is lost, could you consider a generator?
>
> Hector Lopez
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Becky Hurwitz <becky.hurw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > hi all!
>
> > I think a multitude of solutions is the way to go so there are backup
> > options.  At the least, we should document our experiments for the future
> > and for other Occupies.  As long as electricity is available, radio will be
> > good, but if we lose it, or for encampments without, the mobile phone-conf
> > call option may be best.  AND for very mobile events, conf call will be
> > better than radio.
>
> > Are people interested in starting to share knowledge on things like this?
> > Are there places where the media group has been documenting processes or
> > methods?
>
> > B
>
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:26 AM, White Hat <whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com
> > > wrote:
>
> >> i was initially a fan of the conference call route and did some work on it
> >> with ian, but i think radio is "lower tech" and more reliable and scalable
> >> (phones calls can eat minutes and speaker phone are ineffective in the din
> >> of zuccotti).  teleconference is more suited for people in disparate
> >> locations (e.g. among occupies).
>
> >> white hat
>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* Pam Tietze <pam.tie...@gmail.com>
> >> *To:* Global Revolution Media <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 11:08 PM
>
> >> *Subject:* [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team
>
> >> Hey guys have you already thought about free conference calls? We have
> >> been looking into all these options as well for the film screenings.
> >> The conference calls seem plausible...you don't need a device with an
> >> fm receiver, people just dial a number and put in a pin and they are
> >> connected the person who started the conference (and is speaking into
> >> their phone). You can make it so that everyone else is silent (so
> >> their noise doesn't interfere with the person who started the call.
> >> That phone can be passed around to whoever wants to speak.
>
> >> The drawback is...limited number of callers. Some sites have 100, some
> >> less. The one we are looking at is called rondee.com and has a max of
> >> 50. But if 50 people called into the line, they could put their phones
> >> on speakerphone and I think that can help with distributing
> >> information. The ones that have a larger number of callers allowed
> >> (upwards of 250) cost money (although not much I think). If we did the
> >> larger number of callers one, people from anywhere theoretically can
> >> listen (you can even listen with google phones)
>
> >> Anyhow, something to consider since most everyone has a phone (rather
> >> than a computer or something that receives an FM signal)
>
> >> I'm going to be testing this with a bunch of phones in the park
> >> tomorrow around 4pm. Please find me if you'd like to help.
>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Pam
> >> 254-681-8061
>
> >> On Oct 24, 5:01 pm, micah anderson <mi...@riseup.net> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > Thanks for your reply and comments on the proposal!
>
> >> > On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT), White Hat <
> >> whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > that said, i would not support a $2,000 budget initially.  i think
> >> > > better to demonstrably "solve" the open mic problem using minimal cost
> >> > > equipment and after that is working ask for funds to stream, archive,
> >> > > etc.  specifically get it working in the square without sound boards,
> >> > > laptops, streaming, space, storage, etc.
>
> >> > We have actually done this a couple of times, with some people from
> >> > media, using the PART-15 transmitters, USB audio devices, cables and
> >> > adapters that we have purchased ourselves ahead of time in order to do
> >> > this demonstration.
>
> >> > None of these have been widely announced because the transmission range,
> >> > money and space concerns have kept us from being able to reliably
> >> > provide something that would work as a demonstration for a larger
> >> > group.
>
> >> > The proposal as written is intended for the first phase to be
> >> > accomplished in much the same way as you describe, using minimal cost
> >> > equipment to just do the FM broadcasting, not doing the streaming,
> >> > archiving, etc.
>
> >> > > have you looked at these transmitters:
>
> >>http://www.amazon.com/0-5-Fail-Safe-Long-Range-Transmitter/dp/B003FO4UHW($139)
>
> >>http://www.amazon.com/Fail-Safe-Long-Range-FM-Transmitter/dp/B003VZU41G
> >> ($209)
>
> >> > Yes, as far as we can tell from the minimal descriptions there, these
> >> > are *not* FCC PART-15 compliant, especially with over 3 miles of
> >> > transmission capability. This is O.5 W, which is over the limit for
> >> > PART-15. This would require a LPFM license, which is not trivial to get.
>
> >> > > my suggestion would be to get one transmitter, one wired mic, one
> >> > > shotgun mic (to pick up audience comments), and ask people to bring
> >> > > radios.
>
> >> > We have two wired microphones (SM58s) donated, but they require phantom
> >> > power (ie. mixer board, which can be obtained for ~$120, we heard there
> >> > might have been one that was put in a green bin at SIS about 3 weeks
> >> > ago, we'd like to find that and use it if possible). We also have a
> >> > shotgun mic that takes a battery, but it is suboptimal for the purpose
> >> > as the cable lengths are poor, and the pickup very bad, it would not
> >> > work for a GA (we've tried). We have already two transmitters, cables,
> >> > adapters, etc.  which is over $200 already out of pocket. We can't go
> >> > any further without support from an official working group. We need
> >> > space, recognition and some resources to take this to
> >> > completion. Several of us are hauling a ton of equipment on our bikes on
> >> > a regular basis down to the square that I would really like to put
> >> > somewhere other than my already bad back.  We've been making callouts to
> >> > the local community asking for equipment donations and support, but have
> >> > thus far only received one offer that did not come through. The amount
> >> > requested is for the full project, but we could easily do phase one at a
> >> > lower amount, which I think would be sufficient to provide
> >> > demonstrations, but to do that, we are going to need some money to do
> >> > it. If I could front the money, I would.
>
> >> > micah
>
> >> >  application_pgp-signature_part
> >> > < 1KViewDownload
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> > --
> > Skype: becky.hurwitz
>
> --
> ;lkjkl



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