From:   Pablo J. Varona Borges <pablillojose@riseup.net>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:25:34 PM
To:   globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com; pmradio@list.riseup.net
Subject:   Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team
 

Hey Brennan,

 

   We thought of your idea. Thanks for offering. This is a great offer...

 

hugs,

pablillo jose

 

 

> Brennan with Sustainability here. We just got approval to fund energy

> bikes to produce battery-stored power. Before a group suggests a

> generator, Sustainability Working Group highly encourages you to

> consider stepping away from fossil fuels and get on a bike. Kitchen

> used the one battery we have now to power their lights after their

> generator failed the other day.

>

> On Oct 26, 11:22 pm, Hector Lopez <hectorlope...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> If the electrical energy is lost, could you consider a generator?

>>

>> Hector Lopez

>>

>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Becky Hurwitz

>> <becky.hurw...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> > hi all!

>>

>> > I think a multitude of solutions is the way to go so there are backup

>> > options.  At the least, we should document our experiments for the

>> future

>> > and for other Occupies.  As long as electricity is available, radio

>> will be

>> > good, but if we lose it, or for encampments without, the mobile

>> phone-conf

>> > call option may be best.  AND for very mobile events, conf call will

>> be

>> > better than radio.

>>

>> > Are people interested in starting to share knowledge on things like

>> this?

>> > Are there places where the media group has been documenting processes

>> or

>> > methods?

>>

>> > B

>>

>> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:26 AM, White Hat

>> <whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com

>> > > wrote:

>>

>> >> i was initially a fan of the conference call route and did some work

>> on it

>> >> with ian, but i think radio is "lower tech" and more reliable and

>> scalable

>> >> (phones calls can eat minutes and speaker phone are ineffective in

>> the din

>> >> of zuccotti).  teleconference is more suited for people in disparate

>> >> locations (e.g. among occupies).

>>

>> >> white hat

>>

>> >> ------------------------------

>> >> *From:* Pam Tietze <pam.tie...@gmail.com>

>> >> *To:* Global Revolution Media

>> <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>

>> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 11:08 PM

>>

>> >> *Subject:* [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Proposal from radio team

>>

>> >> Hey guys have you already thought about free conference calls? We

>> have

>> >> been looking into all these options as well for the film screenings.

>> >> The conference calls seem plausible...you don't need a device with an

>> >> fm receiver, people just dial a number and put in a pin and they are

>> >> connected the person who started the conference (and is speaking into

>> >> their phone). You can make it so that everyone else is silent (so

>> >> their noise doesn't interfere with the person who started the call.

>> >> That phone can be passed around to whoever wants to speak.

>>

>> >> The drawback is...limited number of callers. Some sites have 100,

>> some

>> >> less. The one we are looking at is called rondee.com and has a max of

>> >> 50. But if 50 people called into the line, they could put their

>> phones

>> >> on speakerphone and I think that can help with distributing

>> >> information. The ones that have a larger number of callers allowed

>> >> (upwards of 250) cost money (although not much I think). If we did

>> the

>> >> larger number of callers one, people from anywhere theoretically can

>> >> listen (you can even listen with google phones)

>>

>> >> Anyhow, something to consider since most everyone has a phone (rather

>> >> than a computer or something that receives an FM signal)

>>

>> >> I'm going to be testing this with a bunch of phones in the park

>> >> tomorrow around 4pm. Please find me if you'd like to help.

>>

>> >> Thanks,

>> >> Pam

>> >> 254-681-8061

>>

>> >> On Oct 24, 5:01 pm, micah anderson <mi...@riseup.net> wrote:

>> >> > Hello,

>> >> > Thanks for your reply and comments on the proposal!

>>

>> >> > On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT), White Hat <

>> >> whitehatoccupywal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >> > > that said, i would not support a $2,000 budget initially.  i

>> think

>> >> > > better to demonstrably "solve" the open mic problem using minimal

>> cost

>> >> > > equipment and after that is working ask for funds to stream,

>> archive,

>> >> > > etc.  specifically get it working in the square without sound

>> boards,

>> >> > > laptops, streaming, space, storage, etc.

>>

>> >> > We have actually done this a couple of times, with some people from

>> >> > media, using the PART-15 transmitters, USB audio devices, cables

>> and

>> >> > adapters that we have purchased ourselves ahead of time in order to

>> do

>> >> > this demonstration.

>>

>> >> > None of these have been widely announced because the transmission

>> range,

>> >> > money and space concerns have kept us from being able to reliably

>> >> > provide something that would work as a demonstration for a larger

>> >> > group.

>>

>> >> > The proposal as written is intended for the first phase to be

>> >> > accomplished in much the same way as you describe, using minimal

>> cost

>> >> > equipment to just do the FM broadcasting, not doing the streaming,

>> >> > archiving, etc.

>>

>> >> > > have you looked at these transmitters:

>>

>> >>http://www.amazon.com/0-5-Fail-Safe-Long-Range-Transmitter/dp/B003FO4UHW($139)

>>

>> >>http://www.amazon.com/Fail-Safe-Long-Range-FM-Transmitter/dp/B003VZU41G

>> >> ($209)

>>

>> >> > Yes, as far as we can tell from the minimal descriptions there,

>> these

>> >> > are *not* FCC PART-15 compliant, especially with over 3 miles of

>> >> > transmission capability. This is O.5 W, which is over the limit for

>> >> > PART-15. This would require a LPFM license, which is not trivial to

>> get.

>>

>> >> > > my suggestion would be to get one transmitter, one wired mic, one

>> >> > > shotgun mic (to pick up audience comments), and ask people to

>> bring

>> >> > > radios.

>>

>> >> > We have two wired microphones (SM58s) donated, but they require

>> phantom

>> >> > power (ie. mixer board, which can be obtained for ~$120, we heard

>> there

>> >> > might have been one that was put in a green bin at SIS about 3

>> weeks

>> >> > ago, we'd like to find that and use it if possible). We also have a

>> >> > shotgun mic that takes a battery, but it is suboptimal for the

>> purpose

>> >> > as the cable lengths are poor, and the pickup very bad, it would

>> not

>> >> > work for a GA (we've tried). We have already two transmitters,

>> cables,

>> >> > adapters, etc.  which is over $200 already out of pocket. We can't

>> go

>> >> > any further without support from an official working group. We need

>> >> > space, recognition and some resources to take this to

>> >> > completion. Several of us are hauling a ton of equipment on our

>> bikes on

>> >> > a regular basis down to the square that I would really like to put

>> >> > somewhere other than my already bad back.  We've been making

>> callouts to

>> >> > the local community asking for equipment donations and support, but

>> have

>> >> > thus far only received one offer that did not come through. The

>> amount

>> >> > requested is for the full project, but we could easily do phase one

>> at a

>> >> > lower amount, which I think would be sufficient to provide

>> >> > demonstrations, but to do that, we are going to need some money to

>> do

>> >> > it. If I could front the money, I would.

>>

>> >> > micah

>>

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>> > --

>> > Skype: becky.hurwitz

>>

>> --

>> ;lkjkl

>

 

 

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