From:   rob hollander <lesrrd@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:00:45 PM
To:   Hector Cordero-Guzman <hcordero@aol.com>
Cc:   september17@googlegroups.com; Sean Captain <sean@seancaptain.com>; Harrison Schultz <schuh072@newschool.edu>
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] OWS analytics
 

Thank you, Hector, for this clear and comprehensive response.

Just to be sure:

>>Blacks (28%) were a little less likely than whites (33%) to be currently be in school,<<

does not reflect your data.

And thanks very much, Sean and Harrison, for getting this response to us.

In solidarity,

rob hollander, ph.d.


On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Hector Cordero-Guzman <hcordero@aol.com> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

 

Attached and below you will find the table on school enrollment by racial\ethnic background from the second wave. These are the numbers to use.

 

The data indicate that 24.9% of the sample was enrolled in school.

 

The breakdown of the proportion enrolled in school by group is,

 

White is 23.1%

Black is 29.1%

Asian is 32.9%

American Indian is 36.4%

Mixed is 30.5%

Other is 26.3%

Hispanic is 37.4%

 

The difference is that in the survey we have two questions: one on race and the other on Hispanic origin. I combined both variables to create a single race\ethnic origin variable with mutually exclusive categories. If we just use the original variable, the “white” category includes people that said they were “Hispanic” to the next question. Here they are included in the “Hispanic” category…  

 

There are no inconsistencies or issues with the data and these tables make perfect sense to me. Everything adds up.

 

If any of you have any questions, let me know.

 

As we develop our processes please note that in the future, in order to avoid any further confusion, we will not be releasing any preliminary data or findings via mass email. Findings will be written in memo form and any email will make clear whether the findings are preliminary and for discussion only (and not for circulation or publication) or are more robust and have been vetted, discussed and we are comfortable releasing information to the public.

Thanks to all. Again, please let me know directly if any of you have any questions.

Best,

Hector

Hector Cordero-Guzman, Ph.D.

 

Are you currently in school? * Racial\Ethnic Background Crosstabulation

 

Racial\Ethnic Background

Total

White

Black\African American

Asian

American Indian

Mixed

Other

Hispanic\Latino

Are you currently in school?

1.  Yes

Count

943

23

47

8

46

55

127

1249

% within Are you currently in school?

75.5%

1.8%

3.8%

.6%

3.7%

4.4%

10.2%

100.0%

% within Racial\Ethnic Background

23.1%

29.1%

32.9%

36.4%

30.5%

26.3%

37.4%

24.9%

2.  No

Count

3133

56

96

14

105

154

213

3771

% within Are you currently in school?

83.1%

1.5%

2.5%

.4%

2.8%

4.1%

5.6%

100.0%

% within Racial\Ethnic Background

76.9%

70.9%

67.1%

63.6%

69.5%

73.7%

62.6%

75.1%

Total

Count

4076

79

143

22

151

209

340

5020

% within Are you currently in school?

81.2%

1.6%

2.8%

.4%

3.0%

4.2%

6.8%

100.0%

% within Racial\Ethnic Background

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

100.0%

 

 

 

Hector R. Cordero-Guzman, Ph.D.

hcordero@aol.com

 

From: Sean Captain [mailto:sean@seancaptain.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:36 AM
To: Hector Cordero-Guzman
Subject: Fwd: [september17discuss] OWS analytics

 

Hey Hector. I don't think we are using this piece of data in our infographic. But just to be safe, is there an explanation for this discrepancy?

 

Oh and are we meeting tonight at Zuccotti?

 

Thanks, Sean

 

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From: rob hollander <lesrrd@gmail.com>

Subject: [september17discuss] OWS analytics

Date: October 26, 2011 10:09:34 PM EDT


Hey Harrison,

So that the surveys don't lose all credibility, could you please answer this question re the last survey (I've asked you this off list but no response)?

How can blacks be less likely to be in school than whites if blacks, Asians and Hispanics are each more likely to be in school than the total sample, which was overwhelmingly majority white??

 

>>Blacks 29.3% were more likely than the total sample 24.8% to currently be in school, Asians 33% were even more likely to be in school.  Hispanics 37% were more likely to currently be in school than non Hispanics 24%<<

...

>>Blacks (28%) were a little less likely than whites (33%) to be currently be in school,<<

In solidarity,
rob

In case you want to review, here's your full post

We fielded a new survey on occupywallst.org and collected 5,006 complete responses!  It´s nonradom data but still highly useful.  The long and short of it is that many of the same trends from the Oct 5 sample hold together, which is good.  The overwhelming majority of the sample identified as wilte however the larger number of responses makes an analysis of occupywallst.org traffic in terms of ¨race¨ a bit more reliable.  Here are some preliminary trends I´ve noticed which my senior Colleague Dr. Hector Cordero Gusman may confirm/critique and build upon, and formalize. He´s already posted on occupywallst.org.  If anyone is interested in discussing any of the knitty gritty details of this survey please Join Hector and I at Liberty Plaza this thursday the 27th, around 6:00pm to discuss this as well as a potential research and analytics working group to possibly add to the GA, cause there´s lots of people doing polls on us now.  We´ll also begin discussing better ways to measure racial/ethnic identity on this survey instrument, which is another interesting conversation all on its own.   

Anyhoo, the more interesting trends were tied to education in my opinion.  Blacks 29.3% were more likely than the total sample 24.8% to currently be in school, Asians 33% were even more likely to be in school.  Hispanics 37% were more likely to currently be in school than non Hispanics 24% non Hispanics.  This data suggests in my opinion that the best, most strategically sound place to diversify the occupy wall street movement at Liberty plaza NYC is through the local universities.  I´ve sent my professors Jeff Goldfarb and Elzbieta Matynia, who have both already visited Liberty and who have expressed interest in providing teach-in space for OWS to Grim and myself.  I´ve also cc´d my professors Terry Williams and Oriville Lee, specialists on the sociology of race.  If OWS is interested and we ask these folks nicely perhaps they´ll hold a teach in on the subject of media, race and identity as it pertains to OWS in part at Liberty and in part at New School perhaps.  Jeff has told me that he´ll be at Liberty today around 430pm if anyone finds the idea appealing and would like to discuss it further try to find him around the Press/Info table around that time.  I´ll be there around 530.

Here are some other data points by "racial group" that suggest that non-white outreach at universities is a good idea...

Blacks:
Blacks (28%) were a little less likely than whites (33%) to be currently be in school, however blacks (26.8%) were a bit more likely than whites (22.6%) to hold a graduate degree.  
The total sample of blacks was a bit smaller than some of the other categories however it seems to me that the best place to possibly do targeted messaging/outreach to this group, or promote a race/identity, media, OWS themed teach to this group for example, would be on YouTube, blacks (45.1%) and racially mixed respondents  are a bit more likely to strongly agree that they are regularly on YouTube than other groups.  Blacks also seem to show preferences for Television compared to other groups.  17% of blacks compared to 9.5 % of the total sample were agreed that they watched prime time local television.  32% of blacks vs 17.7% of the total sample were likely to agree that they watched prime time national television.  39% of blacks compared to 22.4% total sample were likely to watch prime time cable television.  37.8% of blacks were more likely to follow news on CNN than 28.6% total sample.  20.7% were more likely to agree strongly that they followed news on Comedy Central than the total sample 14%.  Blacks were also more likely to agree that they followed news on MSNBC 24.4% than the total sample 10.4%.  Blacks (42.&%) are also more likely than other groups to identify as Democrat than the total sample (27.4%). 

Mixed:
Racially mixed are more likely than other groups to be on youtube (39.9%), they are also more likely to be on FaceBook 47.6%  than the total sample 39.1%.  

Asian:
Were the most likely of an group to have a graduate degree 32.6%.  Asians are the least likely to strongly agree that they've participated in OWS, 21.5% vs 30.4% of the total sample.  They're also the least likely to agree that OWS will create lasting positive social change 46.5% vs 55.9 of the total sample.  They're more likely to to read the Wall Street Journal 20.2% vs 13.9% of the total sample.  They're more likely to follow ABC 15.3% vs 11% of the total sample.  They're also way more likely to agree that the internet has changed te way that they meet and interact with others 45.8% vs 33.1% of the total sample.  

Hispanic:
In addition to being more likely than non Hispanics to be in school, they're more likely 39.9% to strongly support OWS than the total sample 30.0%.  They're more likely to strongly agree that the protests will grow 76% vs 70% of the total sample.  There also more likely to strongly agree that OWS will lead to lasting and positive social change 62.8% vs 55.9% of the total sample.  They're more likely than the rest of the sample to agree that the internet is there main source of entertainment 46% vs 36% non-hispanic.  Hispanics are more likely to agree that the internet has changed the way they interact and communicate with others 36.7% vs 32.9% non Hispanic.  They're more likely to use Facebook regularly 45.7% than non Hispanics 38.6%.  I've been told that Democracia Real Ya (NYC) has a Facebook Page which has been highly supportive, I heard they supported our early meetings at Thompkins Sq.  Hispanics are also more likely to be on Youtube 44.6% than 32.8% non hispanics.  They're also more likely to follow the Global Rev Livestream 38.4% than non Hispanics 30.0%.  They're also more likely 14.7% vs 8.2% non Hispanic to use Twitter, which is a finding I've noticed in a recent Forrester report as well.       

Sean and Mercedes, this is all FYI, but off the record, until our PR group has had a chance to go over everything!  Other than everyone please feel free to spread and discuss this far and wide within our network!

In Solidarity, 

Harrison



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Rob Hollander
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--
Rob Hollander
Lower East Side Residents for Responsible Development
http://savethelowereastside.blogspot.com/
622 E 11, #10
NYC, 10009
212-228-6152

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