From:   J.A. Myerson <jesse.myerson@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Friday, October 28, 2011 10:30:15 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Structure Proposal GA Tonight
 

OWS is patently both an organization (in some sense, right? Not a traditional one, but one with inhabitants and committees and so forth) *and* a social movement.

Of course there is great wisdom in the GA, and this proposal preserves the GA (and the GA's ability to dissolve the Spokes Council).

What this does is streamline communication, consolidate efficiency and, what's more, help propel the social movement.

JAM

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM, rob hollander <lesrrd@gmail.com> wrote:
The beauty of a GA is that anyone can speak. It affords an admittedly limited but yet fully equal enfranchisement and empowerment. So far, OWS, using a GA, has been successful, I venture to say, way beyond anyone's imagination. You are about to fix something that has empirically worked. If it is dysfunctional, do not assume that's a problem. Study OWS's success first before assuming it needs repair.

The purpose of a structure is to make decisions. That's assuming that OWS is an organization. Well, in August, it was: an organization designed to create a social movement.

It succeeded: OWS is now a social movement, not an organization. Social movements don't make decisions.

Organizations within a social movement make decisions for themselves. That's what OWS should allow to flourish. But to imagine that some structure should call itself OWS and make decisions for OWS is, well, to coopt the movement. This structure is a coopting of a social movement.

I find great wisdom in the GA. I find this spokes structure at best counterproductive, at worst, divisive, disempowering and a threat to the local effort.

Once a structure makes decisions easy, there will be too many decisions and many will be mistakes. Where OWS needs such quick practical decisions like financing, OWS ought to set up structure for those, but only for those.



On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote:
This is SUCH a better proposal than the one initially brought to the GA last week!


On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm in the structure working group. 
For the last 3-4 weeks we've been meeting to discuss
the coordination and communication problems in OWS. 
The result is the following proposal:
http://www.nycga.net/spokes-council/
Tonight, we will be presenting at the GA. 
Please come.
We need this.

In solidarity, 
Marisa




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