From:   Steven Macchia <owsmediateam@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Friday, October 28, 2011 11:24:34 PM
To:   globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: General Strike?
 


I feel like it would be better to have some type of solidarity demonstration with Oakland as they pursue this, march or whatever (i'm not good at planning that kind of stuff, just covering it.) 

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:40 PM, noia efrat <noia.efrat@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree that now is not the time. I think some of us were under the impression that some general consensus was reached and we jumped the gun and quickly realized that it wasn't a sound idea. But I don't think that it comes into conflict with our current MO, and i don't think that it would mark the end of our slow and steady incline into global relevance. A general strike would be one of many actions that shed light on the everyday impact of the 99%. However, it would take a lot more planning than 5 days. Lets see how people respond. 



On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:25 PM, John Kersten <occupy.johnnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that I think about it, I'm with Premo. A general strike would not be good for this movement. Not now anyway. It would last for a very short time and everyone goes back to work afterward. In my opinion, getting our shit together to provide our own electricity and cook our own meals throughout the winter- and demonstrating this possibility for other occupations- is more important than a single short, dramatic gesture, which is what the establishment is expecting. We do what the establishment does NOT expect. When 700 are arrested in a park one day, they expect us to disperse. Instead, there are 1,000 there the next day. Slow and steady wins the race. Grace under pressure. This MO has gotten us very far.

Instead of having one massive demonstration, there should be more consistent demonstrations in NYC on a weekly basis. Anyone who has been watching the news knows that if we demonstrate, people watch. The millionaires' march was a great idea- every member of the 1% on Manhattan should go to sleep worrying that tomorrow their name and our grievances against them will be read out loud on national news. 

I think that if the time is right for a general strike, it will be glaringly obvious. My two cents.

Thanks,
JGK

On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:49 PM, kari giron <karigiron@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree - let's pace ourselves and start work on a bigger plan next week. 

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM, noia efrat <noia.efrat@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael, i agree. Lets keep our working group though, this just gives
us more time to discuss w larger group and plan better.

On 10/28/11, Michael Premo <m.premo@gmail.com> wrote:
> sorry for reposting, but this got sucked into the wrong thread
>
> supporting oaklands call to have a general strike in oakland doesn't
> necessarily mean we have to call for one in ny.
>
> we should certainly support.
>
> but we should be careful about calling on things we can't deliver on.
> regardless of what whoever says. a general strike is a hugely complicated
> idea.  let's focus on what we're good at OCCUPYING.  take some more space
> and build to a MASS movement where we can organize and call for something
> like this and get some results.  nov 17 will be a day to make a dent that
> could sow some seeds for people understanding the implications of a
> "general" strike.
>
> if you're interested in a general strike and want to organize at your work
> place or among your friends to make that happen, help in building worker
> councils.  hit me off list for details.
>
> my two cents.
>
>
>
> Michael Premo
>
> c. 917.547.1292
> http://www.michaelpremo.com
>
> http://housingisahumanright.org
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Jason Hart <jcuddlefish@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Two threads operating about this, as per some discussion in the other
>> thread, genstrike.org now redirects to occupyoakland.org. This is
>> temporary or can be changed, doesn't matter to me.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Andrea Ciannavei
>> <andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > noia and kari -
>> > are we moving forward with the meeting tonight? i ask because there is
>> some
>> > conflicting opinions about general strike. email string that reads DO
>> > NOT
>> > STRIKE let me know what your thoughts are. 646-326-4896.
>> > a.
>> >
>> > On Oct 28, 2011, at 3:32 PM, noia efrat wrote:
>> >
>> > Great.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, andrea ciannavei
>> > <andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Will bring mine.
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 28, 2011 3:24 PM, "noia efrat" <noia.efrat@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If we meet at bleeker and lafayette we will have access to comps, but
>> >>> will anyone have a laptop on them?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM, andrea ciannavei
>> >>> <andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> perfect! my cell is 646-326-4896
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, noia efrat <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Josh, that's great! Andrea, lets meet at bleeker and lafayette at 8
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> Kari can you meet us there?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Kersten
>> >>>>> <occupy.johnnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'll shoot some talking heads tomorrow morning and cut it together
>> if
>> >>>>>> we can work out basic messaging...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "In Solidarity with the millions who have lost their livelihood in
>> >>>>>> this crisis, while the bankers post record profits, on November 2 I
>> will not
>> >>>>>> work, either. Join me."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Separate topic?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> John Kersten
>> >>>>>> Director/DIT
>> >>>>>> 206-999-1281
>> >>>>>> JohnnyK327@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Jason Hart <jcuddlefish@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> > 3rd choice is nov2generalstrike.org?
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > I feel the need for repurposing without date. However, a site
>> >>>>>> > with
>> >>>>>> > date in URL can be saved as a snapshot of one specific action.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > We can register two domains, as well, and I can have one
>> auto-direct
>> >>>>>> > to the other. Domain registration costs me $10 per domain. I am
>> very
>> >>>>>> > broke, but I will pay this, would love a reimbursement if
>> possible.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:06 PM, andrea ciannavei
>> >>>>>> > <andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >> i like the 3rd choice too!
>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jason Hart <
>> jcuddlefish@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>> >>> Can we consense on URL? I will begin draft of text for site and
>> >>>>>> >>> press
>> >>>>>> >>> release.
>> >>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM, noia efrat <
>> noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>> Yes, where are you located? Downtown or BK?
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM, andrea ciannavei
>> >>>>>> >>>> <andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> cool by me. noia - do you want to meet at 8?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:02 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason, thats fine. Andrea and I can call you when we meet.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jason Hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <jcuddlefish@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't meet but I am at home with computer and all of my
>> web
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> building/writing tools, can I skype in to meeting?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:00 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like the third one.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jason Hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> <jcuddlefish@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tell me a URL you want I will have page up in 1-2 hours.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> genstrike.org is available
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> generalstrike.org not available
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> nov2generalstrike.org is available
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> generalstrikenov2.org is available
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We need someone to help design a page and i'm working on
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> writing
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> text.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Marissa says she's interested in doing a vid.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have a window of about one day if we are really going
>> to
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> round
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> up a
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> significant number of people. Who would like to work on
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> over
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> next
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> day and a half? We should have something postable by
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is anyone in touch with Oakland?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Premo
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <m.premo@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> its a great idea to have a general strike next
>> Wednesday.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> general
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> strike
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> would certainly mean we're at the point of a MASS
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> movement.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> is anyone actually doing organizing to make this happen
>> in
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> five
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> days?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Premo
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> c. 917.547.1292
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.michaelpremo.com
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://housingisahumanright.org
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:26 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Marissa "badass" Holmes, can you have it up by
>> Saturday?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Marisa Holmes
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <marisaholmes@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to edit a propaganda piece for Nov 2nd =)
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Marisa
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:13 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so Shawn you should go ahead and start
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> diffusing.
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page for it? Video?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Steven Macchia
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <owsmediateam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree, and it's approaching incredibly quickly,
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action to
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise awareness needs to be taken asap
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:08 PM, noia efrat
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <noia.efrat@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Its definitely a go in Oakland. Don't see why it
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a go
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else...can we approach it like October
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15th?
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Shawn Carrié
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <shawn@occupywsp.org>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are we a 'go' on this? If so I will start
>> diffusing
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels-
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2:00 pm, Vlad T
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <v...@glassbeadcollective.org>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah we need to make something.  anyone want to
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make an
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anon
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video? :)
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2011 1:46 PM, "noia efrat"
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <noia.ef...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has there been talk about further advertising a
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strike on
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2nd?  Not much out there right now...
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason Royal Hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.jasonrhart.com
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jcuddlefish@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 414-801-6828
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Skype: jason.r.hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason Royal Hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> www.jasonrhart.com
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> jcuddlefish@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 414-801-6828
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype: jason.r.hart
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>> >>> --
>> >>>>>> >>> Jason Royal Hart
>> >>>>>> >>> www.jasonrhart.com
>> >>>>>> >>> jcuddlefish@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> >>> 414-801-6828
>> >>>>>> >>> Skype: jason.r.hart
>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>> > Jason Royal Hart
>> >>>>>> > www.jasonrhart.com
>> >>>>>> > jcuddlefish@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> > 414-801-6828
>> >>>>>> > Skype: jason.r.hart
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrea Ciannavei
>> > andrea.ciannavei@gmail.com
>> > 646-326-4896
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jason Royal Hart
>> www.jasonrhart.com
>> jcuddlefish@gmail.com
>> 414-801-6828
>> Skype: jason.r.hart
>>
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