From:   shaistahusain@gmail.com
Sent time:   Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:05:19 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: [september17discuss] WINTER AT LIBERTY PLAZA
 

Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:39:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: [september17discuss] WINTER AT LIBERTY PLAZA

The GA was dealing with an internet proposal when I wanted to propose a solution to the cold weather emergency. So the process could not be changed, and I had to talk at the open mic section. I am afraid we have already created a rigid bureaucratization unable to deal with problems on the ground. Freezing weather and people who could be doing dangerous mistakes. Nothing personal... some in the facilitation team helped with the tent by tent assessment of the situation.
Some people was having signs of hypothermia and were attended by medical, it was hard to know how many people could be sleeping into hypothermia, Autumn Star set up an evacuation system online and we advertised in our web site and this list serve, some people who came to drop clothes took those in need home, some of us took a few more, info was scattered and unable to coordinate anything, people at comfort did not know where the extreme weather sleeping bags where located, and financial was not empowered to take an emergency response. 
Overall, a very inappropriate response, that leaves me wondering who we are as a group and that what is going on at Liberty Plaza is disconnected from what is happening around Liberty Plaza.   
In broken Solidarity,
Cesar


On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 7:23 PM, beka economopoulos <beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:
Thanks Cesar, a lot of purchasing is happening / has happened / will and should continue to happen. 

One issue: entirely reliant upon external allies for that, and they've been amazing.  Spending all day on the phone yesterday and today, going to Home Depot, sporting good stores, etc. etc, totally coming through with mass quantities of needed gear / supplies, dropping it off or arranging deliveries.

But as far as I can tell the OWS funds are still not getting distributed in the way that they need to be. This should be a GA proposal tonight (has the spokescouncil kicked in yet?  I know it passed last night. It will make rapid response and urgent funding needs a hell of a lot easier).  We have the money to take care of our own...what needs to happen to start getting it where it needs to go?

b


On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:
One suggestion, probably already adresssed. Why not purchase high qality gear rather than rely ondonations? It is late and cold.
Cesar
Sent from phone


 

On Oct 29, 2011, at 5:07 PM, beka economopoulos <beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:

Agreed, the "ask" is not "please come to Liberty Park" -- we don't need bodies there as much as we need:

1) Please drop off winter gear donations needed, as outlined in the list below. 
(I don't understand what the problem with dropping off stuff at the UFT building is - that has been the OWS storage space for several weeks now, it is where everything is being stored and sorted and it is where we need materials ASAP.  If that is a big problem please go straight to the Comfort Station inside the park, but that effs up our systems a bit, better to go to OWS storage space at 52 Broadway.

2) Plan for opening up homes or indoor spaces for folks to sleep tonight.  I'm not on this...anyone else?  Status update?

Also: if materials can't be donated today/tonight, or tomorrow, they can be shipped (or purchased and arranged delivery) to this address:

Shipping address:
118a Fulton St
PO Box 205
NY NY 10038

Dropping off in person:
Daily until 9pm at the United Federation of Teachers building, ground floor, 52 Broadway Ave.
After 9pm at the OWS Comfort Station on the east side of Liberty Square (aka Zuccotti Park)



On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Victoria Sobel <victoria@showpaper.org> wrote:
marissa i think more than getting people down here we need a solid plan for where to put people tonight. ive been here all day and we'll be fine but i have very SERIOUS concerns for a majority of the park that is not as well prepared. yes we do need all those supplies but moreso we need to start moving bodies. there will be enough people hold the space.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, beka economopoulos <beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:
Hi, here is a list of urgent needs:

- insulated gloves, wool hats, scarves
- long underwear / smart wool thermal socks
- 300 hand warmers, 300 foot warmers
- waterproof boots in all sizes
- disposable shoe covers
- winter coats
- hot beverages
- thermal heaters
- all weather sub-thermal sleeping bags
- tarps
- insulating tents; foam padding for inside of tents
- wooden pallets to get tents off the ground
- cots to get people off the ground


It sounds like we have plywood for pallets and some tarps lined up for today.  Have 160 sub-zero sleeping bags that were just delivered today but need more!  The hand warmers and foot warmers would be greatly appreciated ASAP.  Winter gear, waterproof boots of all sizes, disposable shoe covers, mens/women's long underwear, cots are all needed.

Items can be dropped off today and tomorrow (or all week) until 9pm at 52 Broadway where we have ground floor storage in the United Federation of Teachers building. 

After 9pm donations can go to the Comfort station on the east side of Liberty Park (aka zuccotti park). 


Thanks,

Beka


On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:21 PM, acpollack2@juno.com <acpollack2@juno.com> wrote:
shovels? 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com>
To: september17@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [september17discuss] WINTER AT LIBERTY PLAZA
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:19:47 +0300

People Need the Following:
Emergency Blankets
Dry Socks, Gloves, and Hats
Payless gift certificates for Shoes
Towels
Plastic Bins
3 post tents
In solidarity,�
Marisa


2011/10/29 Conor Tom�Reed <conortomasreed@gmail.com>
Big ditto to Marisa's call, but let's also be sure to notify the camp that this is only a brief snow-flash. Next week will get warmer, so we'll have some time to figure out winter plans.

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USNY0996

snow solidarity!
-Conor


On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
There is urgent support needed at Liberty Plaza.�
Winter has hit hard, and it is cold and wet.�
The occupiers request that everyone come�
as soon as possible to help with the transition.�
Reach out to your networks.�
This is a crucial turning point in the struggle.�
I have been at home in front of my computer,�
but I'm going back to streets.�
I hope to see you there.�
In solidarity,�
Marisa�



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