From:   Andrea Ciannavei <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 31, 2011 10:36:07 AM
Subject:   Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] heads up

this is great. thanks!



On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Wagner wrote:


> Jim, Your using Windows could account for it... if it has a virus.

> Download and try the free version of

> It's excellent and you don't need to buy it ever. Let us know if it

> finds any viruses.


> Andrea, your case is more disconcerting. It's far less likely that a

> virus is the culprit because you use Mac. And if you're SURE you've

> NEVER used any other computer to log in to your gmail.... That is

> troubling. I can't think of any good explanation of how what could

> happen.


> ( As for virus scan software for Mac, I personally don't know anything

> about which is best. Most Mac users I know, don't use any. )


> For sure, change your gmail passwords again, to something very secure

> --- and something you use for nothing else --- something that looks

> similar to this: ZJpm(9Fkby:z


> Use a program like the free program,

> to manage all of your passwords securely... so you don't need to

> remember them. There is even a free version for most phones, like:

> for

> Android. Used in conjunction with you can keep

> your KeyPassX password file on your Dropbox and access it from all

> your computers and phones.


> Hope this helps.


> Bruce



> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM, jim ginderske <> wrote:

>> Just fyi all of my access is either blackberry or a cheap netbook with

>> (total crap) windows 7 starter...Thanks for the suggestions!


>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:23 AM, andrea ciannavei

>> <> wrote:


>>> Thanks! I have a Mac. Didn't access it from anything but my computer and

>>> my phone as always. I changed the password as you suggested. What's a good

>>> program to scan macs?


>>> On Oct 31, 2011 3:02 AM, "Bruce Wagner" <> wrote:


>>>> It's also very possible for a keyboard capture virus to steal your login

>>>> id & password.

>>>> Do either of you use Windows (Windows is known to have a million more

>>>> viruses than Mac)?

>>>> Is it possible that either of you ever logged on to your account from

>>>> another computer?

>>>> In any case, make sure your computer is scanned for viruses, then

>>>> immediately change your gmail password again.


>>>> On Oct 31, 2011 12:24 AM, "andrea ciannavei" <>

>>>> wrote:


>>>>> this just happened to me as well not 10 minutes ago, i've been very

>>>>> active in some groups and the national calls as well. this is the first time

>>>>> i've ever received a notification like that.


>>>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:15 PM, jim ginderske <>

>>>>> wrote:


>>>>>> Hi all,


>>>>>> A quick heads up...


>>>>>> My name is Jim and I'm in nyc regularly. The last time I was there I

>>>>>> helped out with the livestream, where I met Thorin and Dwayne. I'm also in

>>>>>> Chicago and very active with occupychi.


>>>>>> Late yesterday I had a brief personal email exchange with Dwayne, for

>>>>>> the first time. A few hours later I received a gmail alert saying that my

>>>>>> account was accessed twice in nyc at about the same time I was accessing it

>>>>>> here. Google apparently sends these notices when it recognizes something

>>>>>> that looks fishy to them along with a suggestion to change your password

>>>>>> immediately. I have never received one before.


>>>>>> What this means is that either someone in nyc coincidentally figured

>>>>>> out my very secure password and hacked into my account late last night for

>>>>>> no apparent reason, or someone did so after seeing my exchange with Dwayne.


>>>>>> If the latter, it would indicate that at least some people in nyc's

>>>>>> personal emails are being watched by either hackers or law enforcement. As

>>>>>> you all probably know, secret 'sneak and peek' investigations as well as

>>>>>> warrant-less National Security Letters are permitted by the Patriot Act, so

>>>>>> it could be law enforcement or any hacker trolling for incriminating info

>>>>>> about the movement.


>>>>>> I could be totally off on this, but it is one hell of a coincidence. I

>>>>>> am absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, but the timing of this breach feels

>>>>>> very suspicious to me.


>>>>>> If anyone has a relevant contact at the NLG or ACLU, please forward

>>>>>> this their way. It may of use if they are analyzing patterns of similar

>>>>>> occurrences for future FOIA requests.

>>>>>> Be safe and stay strong...


>>>>>> Jim




Andrea Ciannavei