From:   Richard Machado <>
Sent time:   Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:27:51 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: can someone tell whoever spoke to the Village Voice

I understand the pressures of speaking in situations that cause nerves to rattle, and also the perverse media's ability to twist the truth. And maybe us all, as activists and as individuals, should understand that any media interaction is likely to go down looking horrible for us. It does also makes complete sense that many are angry that what we've worked so hard for is being portrayed in a light that we may not agree with. Both angles have their merits, and valid concerns. But, one bad article will not define us. Within the GA we will define ourselves; we'll define ourselves with our actions;--Those actions that we take when we congregate to create the forum that is the NYCGA: to speak openly with others, to provide a public space that is highly egalitarian, that allows us to build bridges and bonds with our fellow people. Our definition will be in how we march forward, in how each of our new steps in this desert of trust match those values that we hold true.... I am hopeful, and I am trusting in and for my fellow brothers and sisters here and everywhere. Brother, Sister, you could stab me square in the back, but still, you will have a place to rest in the home of my heart if you were ever to put down that knife. My hope is that we can all learn from this experience together, and grow from it. It would be possible for us to hold trainings for ourselves on how to speak to the media and to people that we come into contact with. The information provided there would be very useful information for our newest members and old, so that we may be able to avert such divisive issues in future, to build that "more perfect union."

Solidary 4evz

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Will <> wrote:
Hey all, I just posted the comment below in response to the article
that came out earlier today.  I just want to add to this that while I
was having this conversation with the reporter I did not realize that
she was going to transcribe everything I said at that part.  I thought
it was going to be a column article and not an interview until after
it was done.  Also, she began the conversation with 'I hear there are
a lot of anarchists involved,' which doesn't show in the article and
makes it look like I brought up the topic myself.  I'd like to point
out that I didn't name any names.  That being said this was my first
time talking to the press and I pretty well botched it.

The insulting comments about me posted to the article are not
helpful.  If you have anything else negative you'd like to add I would
appreciate it if you posted it here, rather than making this any worse
than it already was.  I will see it.

I'll let the post speak for itself, but again if you have any more
comments please let me know.

Hey People, especially those from the GA,

I just wanted to clarify a few things from the article which came out
earlier today.  After reading it, I think the tone of it came out way
too pessimistic regarding the GA and S17.  More importantly, I didn't
mean or expect for things to sound so much against certain tendencies
within the GA, especially since nearly everyone involved has been such
a pleasure to organize with.  I have an enormous amount of respect for
these individuals from the GA both as people and as organizers, even
if there are some political differences between us.  In the end I
believe we share common goals, which is why I value our relationships
and the importance of us working together.

While I do stand by arguments I made, I recognize that the Voice was
not the best place to air some of these differences, particularly the
one about liaisons, which was inappropriate for me to talk about with
a reporter.  If I had fully understood the format of the article which
was to be written, I would have refrained from discussing several of
these issues and instead have focused on the more logistical issues
around S17 and its promotion.

I would also like to clarify that New Yorkers Against the Budget Cuts
operates as a separate group from the GA.

As an individual I fully stand with the GA, which we have all worked
so hard together to build, in the expectation that S17 will be a step
forward in the fight against budget cuts and the war on the working
class in the United States and internationally.

In solidarity,

Will Russell

On Sep 15, 8:44 pm, David Graeber <> wrote:
> rule #1 of all activist media work is you don't badmouth other activists to the press.
> I mean I know a lot of you guys are inexperienced but this is beyond obnoxious.
>         David