From:   Doug Singsen <>
Sent time:   Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:10:49 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] btw: telephone reporting

I'm not sure most tea partiers do hate bankers and corporations, and if they do, I don't know what their reasoning or solutions for the problem are, which makes a big difference. There are probably some libertarian tea partiers who think that the problem with our economy is that it's not capitalistic enough. Some TPers may feel that there is too much intermarriage between government and capital but that the solution is to eliminate all government regulation and create an even more unbridled form of capitalism. They may dislike Wall St because it is so intermarried with the federal government, but their proposed solution would make the problem worse, not better. That's certainly not what I'm fighting for, and I don't want to be part of a movement where my actions can be interpreted as supporting that or be confused with that.

I also don't think that a situation where people with opposed political visions are part of the same protest because there is no clearly articulated political vision is the same as true understanding and respect. The TPers aren't supporting us because they're learning to respect other people's opinions. If they knew how most of us felt about Wall St and the economy and what kind of solutions we want to see, they would have nothing to do with us, and in fact would violently denounce us. Rather, because we don't have a clear political position, they're able to project their own right-wing views onto us. The TPers are the far right wing of the American political spectrum. They are the most rabid racists, the most anti-tax-the-rich and the most anti-union political group in the US. They have a right to express their views, but by no means do I want to be associated with them in any way.


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

Absolutely agreed on all points, but again, to quote a wise person in my circle: "everyone hates bankers and corporations." And a little unity can go a long way toward better understanding and respect for diversity of opinions and backgrounds, si?

On Sep 17, 2011 9:51 AM, "Doug Singsen" <> wrote:
> Not to be a downer, but I don't think that getting support from the Tea
> Party is a sign that we're doing something right. In fact, this shows
> exactly the danger of not making our politics and demands clear. After all,
> the Tea Partiers are *against* taxing the rich and are extreme racists to
> boot! Let's make today amazing and inspiring but also make it clear that we
> are demanding that the rich pay for this crisis and that we support peace
> and justice for people of all races.
> Doug
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:51 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
>> Just one more note of encouragement to the group-- I received two phone
>> calls last night through the hotline from people who confessed they were tea
>> partiers but wanted to communicate thier encouragement to the
>> occupywallstreet action---
>> I guess this is the one thing that can possibly unify America--
>> :) see you in the streets!
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Drew <> wrote:
>>> I've posted some info on the nycga site:
>>> let me know if I'm missing anything. I'll try and live blog tomorrow.