From:   gail zawacki <>
Sent time:   Sunday, September 18, 2011 4:49:36 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: WNV video: #OccupyWallStreet begins, and improvises

Oh Gawd.  The Tar Sands and so many other climate actions I've been to, everyone is complaining there are too many of us old people, and not enough young.  Can't we just get together, in an effort to avert the worst of all the various converging catastrophes engineered by the wealthy and their corporations that shield them from liability for the damage they create - without losing momentum by complaining at each other??

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Richard S. <> wrote:
Nice video, Nathan.  But I am not crazy about your description of the
GA in the beginning as "a group of young activists in New York."  Do
you see the problem with this?  I've sort of dropped out of the core
organizing, but I was involved and I am going to be 50 soon.  And I
know there are several other people who have been to the organizing
GAs, some who are very involved in this, who are older than I am.  Of
course, there are not enough older people, and that is one of the big
problems here, because if this is perceived as being exclusively a
youth group, that will certainly limit outreach.  And it is not going
to help if you publicly characterize the group as "young activists."

One of the biggest problems I've had as an unemployed person seeking
work is the ageism that is rampant in the "job market."  It is
unbelievable how blatant and ubiquitous this is.  And I think a larger
number of older people would be drawn to an oppositional movement or
movement of resistance if that movement did not replicate such ageism
in its own approach, language, self descriptions, etc., and actually
even sought to address this particular problem.


On Sep 18, 10:55 am, Nathan Schneider <>
> A bit of video from yesterday. Will try to fix the aspect ratio or  
> whatever you call it. Thanks to all who spoke with us! See you in a  
> few hours!
> Nathan
> -
> Nathan Schneider
> Editor, Waging Nonviolence