From:   Micah White <>
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:01:46 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD

Outreach is not enough, if people don't know why they are coming to the plaza.

I really think that you all need to come up with a demand, or a list of demands, that the nation can latch onto and understand.

In Madrid, they had two demand committees. One committee formulated the long-term revolutionary anti-capitalist demands and the other committee formulated the short term "reformist" demands.  Right now, the world needs to hear a "reformist" demand come out of the assembly, otherwise everyone is going to start ignoring you.  You can also release your long-term demands, but there needs to be a demand that can be accomplished before you leave the plaza.



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Marisa Holmes <> wrote:
Its absolutely vital that we keep Liberty Plaza.
We need to do outreach to whoever possible.
Also, we will be getting a report today from the
legal team.
Come to the 1pm General Assembly.


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mellow Yellow <> wrote:
> Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity with
> many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be more
> ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the event
> we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more noted
> amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our
> message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical presence.
> Just my two cents.
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen <>
> wrote:
>> But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target Wall
>> St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It would be
>> much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the encampment if
>> we lost the connection to Wall St.
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow <>
>> wrote:
>>> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is central
>>> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up Broadway will
>>> frustrate Police efforts to follow.
>>> See you oguys there as soon as I can
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that if was
>>>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined by the
>>>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as soon as
>>>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.
>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
>>>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or Battery
>>>>> Park?
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <> wrote:
>>>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza around 7am
>>>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?