From:   flux@fluxview.com
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:07:58 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD
 

 "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA/Congress/FEC/SupremeCourt AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is a
powerful statement.

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Quoting Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com>:

> Outreach is not enough, if people don't know why they are coming to the
> plaza.
>
> I really think that you all need to come up with a demand, or a list of
> demands, that the nation can latch onto and understand.
>
> In Madrid, they had two demand committees. One committee formulated the
> long-term revolutionary anti-capitalist demands and the other committee
> formulated the short term "reformist" demands.  Right now, the world needs
> to hear a "reformist" demand come out of the assembly, otherwise everyone is
> going to start ignoring you.  You can also release your long-term demands,
> but there needs to be a demand that can be accomplished before you leave the
> plaza.
>
> "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is a
> powerful statement.
>
>
> Micah
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Its absolutely vital that we keep Liberty Plaza.
>> We need to do outreach to whoever possible.
>> Also, we will be getting a report today from the
>> legal team.
>> Come to the 1pm General Assembly.
>>
>> Marisa
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganizecm@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity with
>> > many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be
>> more
>> > ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the
>> event
>> > we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more noted
>> > amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our
>> > message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical presence.
>> >
>> > Just my two cents.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target Wall
>> >> St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It
>> would be
>> >> much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the encampment
>> if
>> >> we lost the connection to Wall St.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow <
>> disorganizecm@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is
>> central
>> >>> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up Broadway
>> will
>> >>> frustrate Police efforts to follow.
>> >>>
>> >>> See you oguys there as soon as I can
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto
>> >>> <matthew.presto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that if
>> was
>> >>>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined by
>> the
>> >>>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as soon
>> as
>> >>>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or
>> Battery
>> >>>>> Park?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <celliwig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza around
>> 7am
>> >>>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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