From:   Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:15:05 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD
 

We are currently drafting collectively, through the democratic process

of the assembly, principles of unity and a statement to the world.

Our power comes from the example we set not from demands.

 

Marisa

 

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:07 PM, <flux@fluxview.com> wrote:

>  "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA/Congress/FEC/SupremeCourt

> AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is a

> powerful statement.

>

> Solidarity,

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> Quoting Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com>:

>

>> Outreach is not enough, if people don't know why they are coming to the

>> plaza.

>>

>> I really think that you all need to come up with a demand, or a list of

>> demands, that the nation can latch onto and understand.

>>

>> In Madrid, they had two demand committees. One committee formulated the

>> long-term revolutionary anti-capitalist demands and the other committee

>> formulated the short term "reformist" demands.  Right now, the world needs

>> to hear a "reformist" demand come out of the assembly, otherwise everyone

>> is

>> going to start ignoring you.  You can also release your long-term demands,

>> but there needs to be a demand that can be accomplished before you leave

>> the

>> plaza.

>>

>> "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is

>> a

>> powerful statement.

>>

>>

>> Micah

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Marisa Holmes

>> <marisaholmes@gmail.com>wrote:

>>

>>> Its absolutely vital that we keep Liberty Plaza.

>>> We need to do outreach to whoever possible.

>>> Also, we will be getting a report today from the

>>> legal team.

>>> Come to the 1pm General Assembly.

>>>

>>> Marisa

>>>

>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganizecm@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>> > Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity

>>> > with

>>> > many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be

>>> more

>>> > ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the

>>> event

>>> > we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more

>>> > noted

>>> > amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our

>>> > message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical

>>> > presence.

>>> >

>>> > Just my two cents.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>> > wrote:

>>> >>

>>> >> But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target

>>> >> Wall

>>> >> St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It

>>> would be

>>> >> much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the

>>> >> encampment

>>> if

>>> >> we lost the connection to Wall St.

>>> >>

>>> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow <

>>> disorganizecm@gmail.com>

>>> >> wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is

>>> central

>>> >>> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up

>>> >>> Broadway

>>> will

>>> >>> frustrate Police efforts to follow.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> See you oguys there as soon as I can

>>> >>>

>>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto

>>> >>> <matthew.presto@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that if

>>> was

>>> >>>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined

>>> >>>> by

>>> the

>>> >>>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as

>>> >>>> soon

>>> as

>>> >>>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or

>>> Battery

>>> >>>>> Park?

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <celliwig@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza around

>>> 7am

>>> >>>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>

>>> >

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

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