From:   Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:23:50 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD
 

but what are the grievances???

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganizecm@gmail.com> wrote:
WE DEMAND THE RIGHT TO FREELY AND PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE IN PUBLIC TO REDRESS OUR GRIEVENCES.

Or is that too constitutional?



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
We are currently drafting collectively, through the democratic process
of the assembly, principles of unity and a statement to the world.
Our power comes from the example we set not from demands.

Marisa

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:07 PM,  <flux@fluxview.com> wrote:
>  "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA/Congress/FEC/SupremeCourt
> AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is a
> powerful statement.
>
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> Quoting Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com>:
>
>> Outreach is not enough, if people don't know why they are coming to the
>> plaza.
>>
>> I really think that you all need to come up with a demand, or a list of
>> demands, that the nation can latch onto and understand.
>>
>> In Madrid, they had two demand committees. One committee formulated the
>> long-term revolutionary anti-capitalist demands and the other committee
>> formulated the short term "reformist" demands.  Right now, the world needs
>> to hear a "reformist" demand come out of the assembly, otherwise everyone
>> is
>> going to start ignoring you.  You can also release your long-term demands,
>> but there needs to be a demand that can be accomplished before you leave
>> the
>> plaza.
>>
>> "WE WILL NOT LEAVE LIBERTY PLAZA UNTIL OBAMA AGREES TO XXXXX!" -- that is
>> a
>> powerful statement.
>>
>>
>> Micah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Marisa Holmes
>> <marisaholmes@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Its absolutely vital that we keep Liberty Plaza.
>>> We need to do outreach to whoever possible.
>>> Also, we will be getting a report today from the
>>> legal team.
>>> Come to the 1pm General Assembly.
>>>
>>> Marisa
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganizecm@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity
>>> > with
>>> > many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be
>>> more
>>> > ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the
>>> event
>>> > we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more
>>> > noted
>>> > amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our
>>> > message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical
>>> > presence.
>>> >
>>> > Just my two cents.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target
>>> >> Wall
>>> >> St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It
>>> would be
>>> >> much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the
>>> >> encampment
>>> if
>>> >> we lost the connection to Wall St.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow <
>>> disorganizecm@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is
>>> central
>>> >>> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up
>>> >>> Broadway
>>> will
>>> >>> frustrate Police efforts to follow.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> See you oguys there as soon as I can
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto
>>> >>> <matthew.presto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that if
>>> was
>>> >>>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined
>>> >>>> by
>>> the
>>> >>>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as
>>> >>>> soon
>>> as
>>> >>>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or
>>> Battery
>>> >>>>> Park?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <celliwig@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza around
>>> 7am
>>> >>>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>


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