From:   Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:13:04 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD
 

Ok. I can't really respond to all of this.

I speak as a member of the GA.

I'm always clear about that.

Thus far we have not reached a consensus

or a vote on whether or not to have demands.

Yesterday, we did begin a discussion

on principles of unity.

 

Marisa

 

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Drew Hornbein <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Harrison. Focus on what we already have, improve the General

> Assembly, produce literature about it and how it works. Improve

> the infrastructure of the encampment. Make this place something beautiful

> and inviting.

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Harrison Schultz <schuh072@gmail.com>

> wrote:

>>

>> We haven't been able to come up with a single demand and I highly doubt we

>> will because the system of oppression we are fighting isn't that simple.

>>  Trying to come up with a single demand hasn't worked and I suggest we try a

>> new approach rather than spend more time bickering.

>> Rather than issue a demand, rather than attempt to hold banksters and

>> corrupt politicians accountable I suggest that we state common purpose:  to

>> create a new start for this country and the world by building a new free and

>> just community right underneath the corrupt source of our failed

>> society...or something like this...It's precisely and exactly what we've

>> been doing these past few days in my opinion.  A little Utopian inspiration

>> will get us a lot farther than more angry rhetoric, there's nothing

>> revolutionary about the later...

>> Harrison

>>

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Richard S. <chardsinger@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> The Union Square area is like a big shopping mall, and most of the

>>> people I've seen passing through the area in recent years, especially

>>> on weekends, looked relatively well off to me.  The park itself is

>>> always so congested with people trying to push or peddle one thing or

>>> another, that almost all activities just get buried there, and it is

>>> such an everyday occurrence for some small group to be there shouting

>>> one thing or another, that unless you've got real numbers, you're more

>>> likely not to be noticed.

>>>

>>> On Sep 20, 11:33 am, Mellow Yellow <disorganiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> > Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity

>>> > with

>>> > many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be

>>> > more

>>> > ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the

>>> > event

>>> > we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more

>>> > noted

>>> > amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our

>>> > message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical

>>> > presence.

>>> >

>>> > Just my two cents.

>>> >

>>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen

>>> > <dougsing...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > > But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target

>>> > > Wall

>>> > > St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It

>>> > > would be

>>> > > much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the

>>> > > encampment if

>>> > > we lost the connection to Wall St.

>>> >

>>> > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow

>>> > > <disorganiz...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is

>>> > >> central

>>> > >> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up

>>> > >> Broadway will

>>> > >> frustrate Police efforts to follow.

>>> >

>>> > >> See you oguys there as soon as I can

>>> >

>>> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto

>>> > >> <matthew.pre...@gmail.com

>>> > >> > wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that

>>> > >>> if was

>>> > >>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined

>>> > >>> by the

>>> > >>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as

>>> > >>> soon as

>>> > >>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.

>>> >

>>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <grimwo...@gmail.com>

>>> > >>> wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or

>>> > >>>> Battery

>>> > >>>> Park?

>>> >

>>> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <celli...@gmail.com>

>>> > >>>> wrote:

>>> >

>>> > >>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza

>>> > >>>>> around 7am

>>> > >>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?

>>

>

>

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