From:   Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:13:43 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: Rumor to be confirmed - NYPD
 

I totally agree that we need to

clarify what it is we're about.

This needs to be decided on by

the GA.

 

Marisa

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Marisa Holmes <marisaholmes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok. I can't really respond to all of this.

> I speak as a member of the GA.

> I'm always clear about that.

> Thus far we have not reached a consensus

> or a vote on whether or not to have demands.

> Yesterday, we did begin a discussion

> on principles of unity.

>

> Marisa

>

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Drew Hornbein <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I agree with Harrison. Focus on what we already have, improve the General

>> Assembly, produce literature about it and how it works. Improve

>> the infrastructure of the encampment. Make this place something beautiful

>> and inviting.

>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Harrison Schultz <schuh072@gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> We haven't been able to come up with a single demand and I highly doubt we

>>> will because the system of oppression we are fighting isn't that simple.

>>>  Trying to come up with a single demand hasn't worked and I suggest we try a

>>> new approach rather than spend more time bickering.

>>> Rather than issue a demand, rather than attempt to hold banksters and

>>> corrupt politicians accountable I suggest that we state common purpose:  to

>>> create a new start for this country and the world by building a new free and

>>> just community right underneath the corrupt source of our failed

>>> society...or something like this...It's precisely and exactly what we've

>>> been doing these past few days in my opinion.  A little Utopian inspiration

>>> will get us a lot farther than more angry rhetoric, there's nothing

>>> revolutionary about the later...

>>> Harrison

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Richard S. <chardsinger@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> The Union Square area is like a big shopping mall, and most of the

>>>> people I've seen passing through the area in recent years, especially

>>>> on weekends, looked relatively well off to me.  The park itself is

>>>> always so congested with people trying to push or peddle one thing or

>>>> another, that almost all activities just get buried there, and it is

>>>> such an everyday occurrence for some small group to be there shouting

>>>> one thing or another, that unless you've got real numbers, you're more

>>>> likely not to be noticed.

>>>>

>>>> On Sep 20, 11:33 am, Mellow Yellow <disorganiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> > Union Square has the significance of being a central hub of activity

>>>> > with

>>>> > many everyday people as well as homeless and young people who might be

>>>> > more

>>>> > ready to join us. This is an outreach and tactical suggestion, in the

>>>> > event

>>>> > we are up-rooted from liberty plaza. Police brutality will be more

>>>> > noted

>>>> > amongst New Yorkers at union Sq than by tourists near wall street. Our

>>>> > message should focus on Wall Street still, if not our physical

>>>> > presence.

>>>> >

>>>> > Just my two cents.

>>>> >

>>>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Doug Singsen

>>>> > <dougsing...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > > But Union Square has no political significance. It wouldn't target

>>>> > > Wall

>>>> > > St., it would just annoy the people who use it on a daily basis. It

>>>> > > would be

>>>> > > much harder to attract broad layers of new people to join the

>>>> > > encampment if

>>>> > > we lost the connection to Wall St.

>>>> >

>>>> > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mellow Yellow

>>>> > > <disorganiz...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > >> I would strongly advise marching to Union Square & Occupy. It is

>>>> > >> central

>>>> > >> enough to gather more support from passers-by. A long march up

>>>> > >> Broadway will

>>>> > >> frustrate Police efforts to follow.

>>>> >

>>>> > >> See you oguys there as soon as I can

>>>> >

>>>> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Matthew Presto

>>>> > >> <matthew.pre...@gmail.com

>>>> > >> > wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > >>> The contingency plan which reached consensus on Saturday was that

>>>> > >>> if was

>>>> > >>> necessary to move to a new location, that space would be determined

>>>> > >>> by the

>>>> > >>> tactical committee, and word would be spread to everyone there as

>>>> > >>> soon as

>>>> > >>> need be. The tactical committee has determined the next location.

>>>> >

>>>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:03 AM, grimwomyn <grimwo...@gmail.com>

>>>> > >>> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > >>>> If that is true what abt a move to the Titanic Memorial Park or

>>>> > >>>> Battery

>>>> > >>>> Park?

>>>> >

>>>> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Lauren <celli...@gmail.com>

>>>> > >>>> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > >>>>> NYPD may have been given permission to vacate liberty plaza

>>>> > >>>>> around 7am

>>>> > >>>>> using vagrancy laws, anyone can confirm?

>>>

>>

>>

>

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