From:   gail zawacki <>
Sent time:   Friday, September 23, 2011 9:16:44 AM
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Helium balloons

I acknowledge that we all make compromises, and can't always avoid making negative impacts on the environment, and I generally put it that, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.

However, I doubt this movement hinges on littering with balloons...and it isn't only turtles that are affected by plastic garbage.  Plastic derives from oil, which is what we're fighting wars and killing people for.  The chemicals leach into our air, food and water and cause cancer.

It seems that people could spend just a few minutes thinking about a satisfactory alternative.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Good <> wrote:
Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than some turtles.*  The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost every respect. If we can find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn't pollute the environment or affect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if turtles must be put at risk so that people can have a chance of living under less oppression, I won't lose any sleep.  

*My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profit is the primary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in the long run, reduce pollution and improve animal welfare.  The reverse of that arrangement, however, is not true.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter <> wrote:
YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <> wrote:
> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza
> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a
> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium
> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police
> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a
> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea
> what we are about ... lots of ideas.
> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.
> Marina
> --
> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che