From:   Marina Sitrin <>
Sent time:   Friday, September 23, 2011 9:21:14 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Helium balloons

I love the color and fun of balloons and all other ideas to make the

space more welcoming. (The rain does not help the space looking like a

messy pile of tarps - this will bring eyes a little more upward.)


On plastic and waste. I totally hear the argument. I was thinking

about it last night when all the food was distributed on plastic

plates with plastic utensils. That perhaps is a larger use of plastic

that we can think about. Maybe recycled paper? I know it is a lot of

work, but washing the utensils.


Excited to make the rain fun instead of a total downer. Eyes up and outward!




On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM, gail zawacki <> wrote:

> I acknowledge that we all make compromises, and can't always avoid making

> negative impacts on the environment, and I generally put it that, you can't

> make an omelet without breaking some eggs.

> However, I doubt this movement hinges on littering with balloons...and it

> isn't only turtles that are affected by plastic garbage.  Plastic derives

> from oil, which is what we're fighting wars and killing people for.  The

> chemicals leach into our air, food and water and cause cancer.

> It seems that people could spend just a few minutes thinking about a

> satisfactory alternative.


> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Good <> wrote:


>> Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than some

>> turtles.*  The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost every

>> respect. If we can find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn't

>> pollute the environment or affect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if

>> turtles must be put at risk so that people can have a chance of living under

>> less oppression, I won't lose any sleep.

>> *My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profit

>> is the primary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in

>> the long run, reduce pollution and improve animal welfare.  The reverse of

>> that arrangement, however, is not true.


>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter <>

>> wrote:


>>> YES! Lets get 100's of them!



>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <>

>>> wrote:

>>> > I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza

>>> > image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a

>>> > few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium

>>> > and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police

>>> > requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a

>>> > bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea

>>> > what we are about ... lots of ideas.

>>> >

>>> > I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.

>>> >

>>> > Marina

>>> >

>>> > --

>>> > Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che

>>> >








Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che