From:   Luis Moreno-Caballud <>
Sent time:   Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:58:46 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Video of Sept 24 arrests

On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Jon Good wrote:

Gee, Doug. Some cops may have families to support and stuff, and the police culture (or even their union) isn't really known for being friendly to dissent. 

I know that it sucks and they are doing awful stuff, but honestly, their sympathy is important. Because there will come a time when we will need the cops, and many of them will be on our side. Not their bosses and the mayor's cronies who give the orders, but there will be some in the rank and file who will be on our side when push comes to shove.  

On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:

Some cops may be "in sympathy" with us, but have they ever disobeyed orders to crack down on us, or any protesters anywhere, for that matter, when the orders came down? No. Their "sympathy" is ultimately worthless.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:14 AM, gail zawacki <> wrote:
I don't know.  But a blue shirt cop told me:

1.  They don't get told anything until the last minute
2.  He's in complete sympathy with us
3.  The reason there was such a large presence last night was the cops saw on the livefeed that we were planning another march to Wall Street at 7.  Not sure if that is true or they mixed it up with the GA.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM, <> wrote:
 Why is it so often the officers in white shirts that are the most violent?
On 09/25/11, grimwomyn<> wrote:

These are just a few of the videos that made it online... there are many-- and they are staying up on youtube

I hope that the girls who were pepper sprayed get a gigantic settlement from nyc

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Elysa Lozano <> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone/group is collecting videos of individual arrests. 
I know some folks who would love access to theirs at this point. 
Wondered if this was being centralized at all? 
Or if people happened to take video of individuals being taken down?