|Sent time:||Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:16:02 PM|
|Subject:||[september17discuss] Re: DEMANDS|
Why don't we also get rid of the words like revolution, workers and
people like we're at it, I heard they were unpopular with a certain
On Sep 26, 12:58 am, "Ms." <play.real...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like What Jon i selling- nI agree with those ideas very strongly, as
> well as all of the relation to the 99% part. We can only win the rest
> of the world if we drop words like "Oppression" and get rid of things
> like "tax the rich" and "class War"
> On Sep 26, 12:40 am, Jon Good <therealjong...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe we can't keep coming up with interim solutions. The world is
> > watching us right now. We need real demands now. Something everyone from
> > college professors to 8th graders at NYC public schools can understand and
> > support.
> > Here is my proposal for a sort of "hierarchy of information" where we start
> > with one overarching message:
> > *Democracy for the people, not the corporations*.
> > Beneath that, three points of what our goals:
> > *Stop *special treatment for banks, corporations, and the super-rich*; *
> > *Create *a real democracy of the people, by the people, and for the people;
> > *Build *solidarity and economic justice for all
> > And below that, the specific action items:
> > - *Stop the housing crisis*. Halt all foreclosures due to predatory lending
> > and huge medical bills.
> > - *Stop gambling people's savings on Wall Street.* Reinstate the 1933
> > Glass-Steagall Act that separated investment banking from commercial
> > banking.
> > - *Tax all financial transactions* as we tax all goods through a sales tax.
> > Introduce a Robin Hood Tax on all financial transactions now.
> > -* Repeal the Tax Reconciliation Act (the Bush tax cuts) now*. Pair the
> > taxes on long-term capital gains to the income tax.
> > - *Corporations are not and will never be people.* End corporate personhood
> > under the 14th Amendment.
> > - *Ban all corporate funding to political candidates.* Introduce a tax bonus
> > that allows each taxpayer to donate the same amount of money to a candidate
> > or party of his or her choice.
> > - *Radical reform of the electoral system.* Enable new political formations
> > to compete on an equal footing with the two major parties.
> > I hate to admit it, but words like "oppression" and even "peace" really sets
> > off many among the 99% of the American heartland who still think we're just
> > a bunch of crazy hippies. We're not all a bunch of crazy hippies and we
> > have to prove that to the 99% we claim (rightfully) to represent. But that's
> > 300 million people we have to stay in touch with.
> > I also think that "The 99%" is a good thing to start referring to ourselves.
> > Solidarity,
> > Jon
> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Matthew Bralow <mbra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > should be brought up at tomorrow eve's GA! hopefully we can come to
> > > some type of interim resolution by end of meeting
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:23 AM, gail zawacki <witsen...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Agreed. I am in contact with very long-time activists and this is at the
> > > > core of their criticism.
> > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Chuck Schumer <csr2...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> As I have noted publicly in a number of GA's, I am downright sick, tired
> > > >> and embarrassed of the lack of concrete demands. Without specific
> > > demands,
> > > >> this is nothing but a glorified camping trip. All the negative press
> > > >> critiques this occupation for its lack of specific demands. With
> > > concrete,
> > > >> reasonable, well-explained and well-researched demands, we will be taken
> > > far
> > > >> more seriously and have more legitimacy with which to respond to attacks
> > > and
> > > >> police brutality.
> > > >> I understand that there is a process and that that process is slow.
> > > >> However, I have heard so many other unimportant things addressed at the
> > > GA,
> > > >> and Saturday night (when the energy from the march was so high!) there
> > > were
> > > >> two concerts going on at either end of the plaza but no productive work
> > > >> being done. At the very least, we must publish an explanation of WHY
> > > there
> > > >> are no demands yet and HOW those demands are being formulated.
> > > >> I'm writing this in part to relieve and express my frustration, but also
> > > >> to make it extremely clear that I consider this issue enough to consider
> > > >> implementing a block on my very involvement in this occupation. I can't
> > > keep
> > > >> justifying the work and money I am putting in to this movement, however
> > > >> beautiful and inspiring and joyous and necessary it is if there is no
> > > clear
> > > >> goal.
> > > >> That's all I have to say about that, I suppose. I know everyone is
> > > working
> > > >> so hard, and I love and support all of you. Nonetheless, this issue
> > > needs to
> > > >> be addressed immediately.
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