From:   Conor <>
Sent time:   Monday, September 26, 2011 4:56:08 PM
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] CRASH Press conf. for NYPD Commish Ray Kelly: tmw Tues 9/27

If I remember correctly, it was ALL the police who were brutalizing, kettling, arresting, and unnecessarily antagonizing our people. We can demonstrate 'higher ground' without giving them a free pass for the despicable things they did to 100 of us. Our higher ground is not fighting back (at least until we grow by the hundreds of thousands). 

This press conference is a DIVERSION from how all cops who were present brutalized Thurs night Troy Davis supporters and Sat noon OWS folks. The press conference's premise is ridiculous: 'hey, folks! We won't stop and frisk young Black and Latino men anymore! Love us!' We should come with specific signs condemning their violence on all these fronts, urge Commissioner Ray Kelly to resign, and connect our struggle with the anti-death penalty and legal justice activist groups in the city.

If we do any less, cops will make sure to laugh in our faces as they mete out more violence at any opportunity. No matter how good or loving they are as individuals, as members of a police force, they are trained and willing to crack heads. They are bent on destroying the public square, and we have to clearly stand up to that. We can't forget or massage this into anything less. 


On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Jon Good <> wrote:

Yes to dignity. We are not going to gain or maintain the respect of very many people by acting disrespectably.  

Remember it's the people who are giving the cops their orders and telling them their jobs depend on crushing us who are our enemies, not the cops on the ground (the white-shirted cops who assaulted those kids yesterday were the commanders, not the regular troops).

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
agreed- we need to get clashes with the police out of the headlines and ideas for change and the future back in

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Gary Roland <> wrote:
I like the idea of making this a show of support for the police officers to start acting responsibly and non-violently.  This could be our contradiction event, showing that we are not against the police, only against when they prop up the financiers will.

However this goes against the statement issued that Commissioner Kelly should resign.  Disrupting the police press conference would obviously escalate the situation, but a show of support to them "following the law" and respecting citizens would be a de-escalation with the police, and may be good for the longevity of the movement.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
We can do both-- we should all be in suits, bringing flowers to thank them.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:47 PM, gail zawacki <> wrote:
revolution!  not resolution!

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:47 PM, gail zawacki <> wrote:
Isn't it worth considering going in not with recrimination but rather with quiet dignity, accepting their acknowledgment that they went overboard, and pledging to work with them to keep this a peaceful resolution, emphasizing that working middle class people like police and fire fighters are part of the 99%.

It will put them in the position of being supportive of the occupation.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Amin Husain <> wrote:
Conor, Great idea!

2011/9/26 Conor Tomás Reed <>
Hey, folks. It looks like the NYPD's trying to do a quick PR clean-up. Should we bring some folks from Liberty Plaza to chant "SHAME" for the NYPD's recent brutalities on Thursday night for the Troy Davis and Saturday for the Occupy Wall Street march? The celebratory language of the press release is strange, given that one of the speakers, Jumaane Williams, was illegally arrested at the West Indian Day parade (walking while Black).

what do y'all think?

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From: todd eaton <>
Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Subject: Press conf. for NYPD Commish Ray Kelly: tmw Tues 9/27

Press conference to applaud NYC's & NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's announced intention that his forces may begin to comply with rule of law...following City for a decade and counting having centered its public safety efforts around making many tens of thousands of plainly illegal race arrests, in a coordinated campaign that was apparently specifically designed to compel Black and Latino youth to move away. 

Call for the passage of New York bill A.7620 (Jeffries)/S.5187 (Grisanti) and City Council Resolution 0986-2011 (Mark-Viverito)
Tuesday, September 27 at 1:30pm at 1 Police Plaza

TRANSIT:  #4,5,6 train to Brooklyn Bridge/City Hall, J train to Chambers street; R, but never N, to City Hall (Broadway & Warren); A, C to Chambers (at Church St.); #1, 2, 3 to Chambers (at W. Broadway); E to WTC; Police Plz is just east of the 1 Centre St. Municipal Bldg., equivalent of Chambers St.;  MAP:  < >

["I'll believe it when it's in my hot little hand."  - Anon.]
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:44:17 -0400
From: "Jeremy Saunders, VOCAL-NY" <>
Subject: [Rttc-nyc] Big Victory for NYPD Accountability!

In response to mounting pressure, NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly told police officers last week to follow the law and stop making costly and racially biased marijuana arrests, now the number one arrest in New York City. This could translate into tens of thousands of fewer arrests among Black and Latino youth each year.

VOCAL-NY led the grassroots effort to end these arrests in collaboration with our allies at the Drug Policy Alliance (DPA) and the Institute for Juvenile Justice Reform and Alternatives (IJJRA).

Although marijuana use is higher among whites, 86% of those arrested for marijuana possession last year were Black and Latino youth. The NYPD's aggressive use of stop-and-frisks in communities of color, along with unconstitutional searches that often follow, have largely driven these arrests. Being arrested can mean more than a night in jail too. It can make it difficult for people to find housing, get a job, take care of their family and apply for tuition assistance.

Please join us this Tuesday, September 27 at 1:30pm
to celebrate this important victory and call for effective implementation.

What: Press conference applauding NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's policy shift to enforce existing marijuana possession laws and to call for the passage of New York bill A.7620 (Jeffries)/S.5187 (Grisanti) and City Council Resolution 0986-2011 (Mark-Viverito)

When: Tuesday, September 27 at 1:30pm

Where: 1 Police Plaza; 4,5,6 train to Brooklyn Bridge/City Hall, J train to Chambers street; [or R, but never N, to City Hall (Broadway & Warren); A, C to Chambers (at Church St.); #1, 2, 3 to Chambers (at W. Broadway); E to WTC; Police Plz is just east of the 1 Centre St. Municipal Bldg., equivalent of Chambers St.; map:  < > -t.]

Who: Drug Policy Alliance, IJJRA, VOCAL-NY, New York Assembly Member Hakeem Jeffries, NYC Council Members Melissa Mark-Viverito and Jumaane D. Williams, advocates, and others

On Monday, September 19th, responding to mounting public pressure from advocates and elected officials, NYPD police commissioner Ray Kelly issued an operations order that clarified existing marijuana possession laws, instructing officers not to arrest people for marijuana in public view when complying with an officer's demand to "empty their pockets". This change could lead to the reduction of tens of thousands of arrests in New York City.

Nearly all of these arrests have been made in defiance of the law. Marijuana has been decriminalized since 1977, making possession of 25 grams or less of marijuana a violation, punishable by a $100 fine, not arrest and jail. However, possessing or burning marijuana in public view is a criminal offense punishable by arrest and jail.

Since 1996, the NYPD has made over 535,000 arrests for possession of small amounts of marijuana. In 2010 alone, 50,383 people were arrested for simple marijuana possession, comprising nearly 15% of all arrests and making it the number one arrest in the city. Most of these arrests were not for smoking in public, but were the result of complying with an officer's demand to disclose contraband or from a police search and being improperly charged for "marijuana in public view" instead of the non-criminal violation offense.

Join the VOCAL-NY, Drug Policy Alliance and IJJRA, together with elected officials, to applaud the Police Commissioner for his policy change, and to urge cooperation to ensure that officers follow this directive.  This operations order can be made permanent, and apply to all of New York state, by passing New York bill A.7620 (Jeffries)/S.5187 (Grisanti). The NYC City Council has introduced a resolution (0986-2011/Mark-Viverito)
supporting the passage of this legislation.

Please note: VOCAL New York was formerly the NYC AIDS Housing Network (NYCAHN)
***Please update your address books with our new emails***

Jeremy Saunders
VOCAL New York 917-676-8041 (cell)

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