From:   Marina Sitrin <>
Sent time:   Monday, September 26, 2011 8:14:46 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Protesters Dig in as Park Owner Seeks Their Eviction

It also seems, from what Chris Dunn from the NYCLU says (should be reported tonight at the GA) that Brookfield would really really like us to be more clean, create more space for people to sit, and have some sort of space in the park that is open to people other than occupiers (by this they do not mean police). 
But ... I am pretty sure this is coming from the Comfort Committee tonight.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:09 PM, J.A. Myerson <> wrote:
That's a good idea de rigeur and for PR reasons, but let's not kid ourselves that a Wall St. dude is gonna let this continue if he has the option not to. Let's lawyer up to the extent possible; those optimists among us can consider it a contingency plan.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:05 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
I volunteer to be on the team to meet with Brookfield if we need to, sounds like we do... to keep the peace. I can coordinate. Let me know if I should move forward.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Micah White <> wrote:
This article from the WSJ has some very good information. Including this tidbit: the owners of Zuccotti Park also lease property to Bank of America Corp. and Morgan Stanley.

Protest Has Unlikely Host
Andrew Grossman. Wall Street Journal (Online). New York, N.Y.: Sep 26, 2011.

The activists protesting against American financial institutions in Lower Manhattan have had an unlikely host for their eight-day-old encampment: Brookfield Office Properties Inc., a giant office landlord more accustomed to housing big banks than anticapitalist agitators.

Hundreds of activists have camped out for the past week in Zuccotti Park, a public space that's owned by Brookfield and named for its co-chairman, John Zuccotti. It isn't far from the target of the protest's ire, Wall Street.

Brookfield would rather have the protesters removed, but the New York Police Department has urged the firm to let them stay, according to a person familiar with the matter. Both Brookfield and the NYPD say they're working together to resolve the situation.

"Zuccotti Park is intended for the use and enjoyment of the general public for passive recreation," the company said in a statement. "We are extremely concerned with the conditions that have been created by those currently occupying the park and are actively working with the City of New York to address these conditions and restore the park to its intended purpose."

Melissa Coley, a spokeswoman for the firm, declined to comment on any tension with the NYPD. Paul Browne, a police spokesman, didn't respond to an email seeking comment.

The private ownership puts Zuccotti Park in a legal gray area that has yet to be resolved in court, said Jerold Kayden, a Harvard professor who wrote a book on such spaces.

Unlike city sidewalks, where a federal judge has ruled demonstrators can sleep, there's less precedent for places like Zuccotti Park. "The accent in privately-owned public space, for purposes of the public, is on public," Mr. Kayden said. "Owners are required to make the space available to members of the public for reasonable use."

The park is one of many in the city created by developers to get zoning incentives--generally the ability to build taller buildings.

Christopher Dunn, the associate legal director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, said the park's unusual legal status might give protesters more leverage in court.

So far, the loosely organized protests haven't encountered much trouble from authorities in the park. Only when they tried to erect a tent and write in chalk on the sidewalk did police move in and make arrests. More than 80 protesters were arrested Saturday during a march without a permit to Union Square.

On Sunday afternoon, protesters were still in Zuccotti Park, laying out sleeping bags and promising to stay indefinitely.

Meanwhile, Brookfield--whose tenants include Bank of America Corp. and Morgan Stanley--started Sunday to make their park slightly more inhospitable.

Brookfield posted rules against a range of behaviors such as laying tarps, sleeping bags and personal property on the ground.

Previously, the only rules posted in the park prohibited skateboarding, rollerblading and bicycling. Men in suits tried to pass out printed copies of the rules, but protesters refused and chanted "Don't take the papers". So they put stacks on benches and tables, prompting the protesters to accuse them of littering.

The rules could give authorities a reason to eject protesters. It could also prompt lawsuits that define the rights of protesters in New York City's privately owned parks with public access.

Amber Benham contributed to this article.

Write to Andrew Grossman at

Credit: By Andrew Grossman

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