From:   Winter Siroco <>
Sent time:   Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:01:17 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: can we try to come up with one demand?

Serving both sides of the discussion, our focus right now should be in improving our process of collective thought.  It will empower both the ability of transforming human relations within the movement and it is required for the elaboration of specific strategies, goals and visions.


On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Lauren <> wrote:
A lot of the traditional left is not taking us seriously because they
expect exactly what Justine mentioned she feared.

Also, regarding food, didn't we have an offer for a huge kitchen in
the city? If we can get support from small farmers and support them
back it would be a boon. Hell, if we could just take over and restore
some abandoned building in Lower Manhattan as a home base it would be
a boon (we could call it urban renewal, since it's exactly what it is
and most of these abandoned buildings have been for long enough that
often nobody is sure about "legal" ownership anyway).

A platform based on only lofty electoral reform won't remove corporate